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2011 Hall of Fame Polls: Curtis Martin

Posted by Chase Stuart on February 4, 2011

I won't pretend to be objective here: Curtis Martin is my favorite player of all-time. To maintain credibility as a football writer, one must be objective. Still, I feel comfortable avoiding such responsibility this time as long as I announce it. I've sponsored his P-F-R page since we rolled out the sponsorship option several years ago, and have no plans of ending my sponsorship. The quote I use to sponsor him was uttered by Martin late in the 2005 season, when he finally had to shut it down for good:

But early last week, the pain prompted a visit to the coach's office.

''Herm said: 'Curtis, just for us to be having this conversation, it must be a very bad situation. There is no way you'd be sitting in Herman Edwards's office if this wasn't drastic,' '' Martin said Sunday afternoon. ''It was. Yesterday, I felt like there was probably no way we're going to be able to do it. We got up this morning and said no.

''If the Raiders had said, 'Curtis, we're not going to tackle you' and gave me the ball on the 1-yard line and let me run 99 yards, I don't even think I'd have been able to get it.''

In each off-season, Martin submits himself to savage workouts, to prepare his body for the inevitable punishment. Martin once played through a season with two severely sprained ankles. He played through another even though a ligament was tearing away from the bone in his buttocks. He played two consecutive seasons with torn knee ligaments that did not slow him.

31 Comments | Posted in Best/Worst Ever, Great Historical Players, History, HOF, Player articles

2011 Hall of Fame Polls: Chris Hanburger

Posted by Jason Lisk on February 4, 2011

Chris Hanburger was born at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, just months before the start of United States' involvement in World War II, and when he graduated from high school, he served a stint in the Army as well. After the Army, Hanburger went to play for the University of North Carolina, and was twice selected as the all-ACC center. Hanburger's age (24 when he entered professional football) and the fact that he was more accomplished on the offensive side of the ball help explain why he lasted until the 18th and final round of the 1965 draft.

He was quite a find, though, as he moved into the starting lineup at linebacker late in his rookie year, and would remain a staple of the Redskins lineup for well over a decade. Hanburger may not have been the most explosive athlete at the position, but he was a heady and instinctive player who is often attributed with being a quarterback on the defensive side of the field. His knowledge and game smarts was a natural for George Allen, who had a strong preference for veterans, and Hanburger was a key member of the "Over the Hill Gang" that led the Redskins to their first Super Bowl appearance following the 1972 season.

18 Comments | Posted in Great Historical Players, History, HOF, Player articles

2011 Hall of Fame Polls: Les Richter

Posted by Neil Paine on February 3, 2011

Moving on with our 2011 Hall of Fame finalist polls, here's Les Richter, a linebacker from the 1950s/60s who was nominated as a senior candidate in this year's class. The rundown on Richter's career:

What do you think? Is Les Richter worthy of HoF induction?

9 Comments | Posted in Best/Worst Ever, Great Historical Players, History, HOF

2011 Hall of Fame Polls: Deion Sanders

Posted by Neil Paine on February 3, 2011

I've been looking forward to this Hall of Fame finalist poll... Let's run down the fact list for Mr. Deion Sanders:

NumYrs Players whose career was of similar quality and shape
3 Bill Simpson, Joe Scudero, Shawn Springs, Ken Konz, Milt Davis, Herb Rich, Jerry Gray, Billy Stacy, DeAngelo Hall, Leon Hall
4 Jerry Gray, Bobby Dillon, Darren Woodson, Jim Marsalis, Ray Rhodes, Roger Wehrli*, Everson Walls, Mark A. Carrier, Abe Woodson, Darrell Green*
5 Darren Woodson, Jerry Gray, Charles Woodson, Everson Walls, George Saimes, Abe Woodson, Bobby Dillon, Frank Minnifield, Troy Polamalu, Lindon Crow
6 Kenny Easley, Darren Woodson, Charles Woodson, Bobby Dillon, Mike Haynes*, George Saimes, Eric Allen, Everson Walls, Abe Woodson, Frank Minnifield
7 Kenny Easley, Nolan Cromwell, Charles Woodson, Joey Browner, Roger Wehrli*, Merton Hanks, Asante Samuel, Bobby Dillon, George Saimes, Willie Brown*
8 Erich Barnes, Mike Haynes*, Eric Allen, Cornell Green, Roger Wehrli*, Aeneas Williams, Lem Barney*, Chris McAlister, Joey Browner, Mel Blount*
9 Roger Wehrli*, Mike Haynes*, Eric Allen, Lem Barney*, Aeneas Williams, Mel Blount*, Darrell Green*, Ed Reed, Erich Barnes, Cornell Green
10 Mike Haynes*, Paul Krause*, Lem Barney*, Mel Blount*, Champ Bailey, Mel Renfro*, Ronnie Lott*, Willie Wood*, Roger Wehrli*, Herb Adderley*
11 Mike Haynes*, Paul Krause*, Willie Brown*, Champ Bailey, Mel Renfro*, Lem Barney*, Willie Wood*, Ronnie Lott*, Aeneas Williams, Mel Blount*
12 Mike Haynes*, Mel Blount*, Willie Brown*, Paul Krause*, Ronde Barber, Night Train Lane*, Champ Bailey, Mel Renfro*, Willie Wood*, Lem Barney*
13 Mike Haynes*, Willie Brown*, Champ Bailey, Ronde Barber, Night Train Lane*, Mel Blount*, Willie Wood*, Lem Barney*, Aeneas Williams, Mel Renfro*
14 Mike Haynes*, Willie Brown*, Champ Bailey, Ronde Barber, Willie Wood*, Night Train Lane*, Lem Barney*, Mel Blount*, Mel Renfro*, Aeneas Williams
Career Mike Haynes*, Champ Bailey, Lem Barney*, Willie Wood*, Ronde Barber, Yale Lary*, Night Train Lane*, Willie Brown*, Mel Blount*, Mel Renfro*
Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 2/3/2011.

So, does Canton make room for Prime Time?

15 Comments | Posted in Best/Worst Ever, Great Historical Players, History, HOF

2011 Hall of Fame Polls: Willie Roaf

Posted by Neil Paine on February 2, 2011

After covering Dermontti Dawson yesterday, we now come to the other offensive lineman in this year's group of Hall of Fame finalists: Willie Roaf. The facts on Roaf's career:

NumYrs Players whose career was of similar quality and shape
3 Stan Jones*, Gary Zimmerman*, Lou Creekmur*, Jim Parker*, Jonathan Ogden, Ralph Neely, Bob Brown*, Dick Stanfel, Tony Boselli, Gene Upshaw*
4 Tony Boselli, Gary Zimmerman*, Lou Creekmur*, Jonathan Ogden, Bob Brown*, Richmond Webb, Gene Upshaw*, Jim Parker*, Tom Newberry, Ralph Neely
5 Jonathan Ogden, Lou Creekmur*, Gary Zimmerman*, Bob Brown*, Tony Boselli, Marvin Powell, Larry Allen, Logan Mankins, Ralph Neely, Jim Parker*
6 Jonathan Ogden, Lou Creekmur*, Gary Zimmerman*, Jim Lachey, Bob Brown*, Marvin Powell, Mike Kenn, Gene Upshaw*, Kent Hull, Bob Vogel
7 Gary Zimmerman*, Bob Vogel, Dick Stanfel, Marvin Powell, Mike Kenn, Jonathan Ogden, Bob St. Clair*, Rosey Brown*, Lou Creekmur*, George Kunz
8 Gary Zimmerman*, Bob Vogel, Gene Upshaw*, Bob Brown*, Rosey Brown*, Randall McDaniel*, Stan Jones*, Marvin Powell, Jonathan Ogden, Ron Mix*
9 Gary Zimmerman*, Bob Vogel, Marvin Powell, Jim Tyrer, Rosey Brown*, Gene Upshaw*, Bob St. Clair*, Tom Mack*, Walt Sweeney, Alan Faneca
10 Gary Zimmerman*, Jim Tyrer, Rosey Brown*, Walter Jones, Alan Faneca, Bob Brown*, Lou Creekmur*, Tarik Glenn, Gene Upshaw*, Bob Vogel
11 Gary Zimmerman*, Jim Tyrer, Rosey Brown*, Walter Jones, John Hannah*, Jonathan Ogden, Mike Webster*, Richmond Webb, Bob Brown*, Alan Faneca
12 Gary Zimmerman*, John Hannah*, Gene Upshaw*, Rosey Brown*, Walter Jones, Richmond Webb, Jonathan Ogden, Randall McDaniel*, Jim Tyrer, Jim Ringo*
13 John Hannah*, Gary Zimmerman*, Gene Upshaw*, Jonathan Ogden, Rosey Brown*, Randall McDaniel*, Jim Ringo*, Walter Jones, Jim Tyrer, Art Shell*
Career Gary Zimmerman*, Jonathan Ogden, John Hannah*, Forrest Gregg*, Walter Jones, Rosey Brown*, Gene Upshaw*, Art Shell*, Jim Tyrer, Jim Ringo*
Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 2/2/2011.

What's the verdict on Roaf?

12 Comments | Posted in Best/Worst Ever, Great Historical Players, HOF, PI Finds, Play Index, Player articles

2011 Hall of Fame Polls: Jerome Bettis

Posted by Neil Paine on January 28, 2011

Yesterday's poll on Marshall Faulk was truly a no-brainer, with 98.6% of PFR readers considering him HoF-worthy. So let's challenge the voters with a more interesting question: is Jerome Bettis a Hall of Famer?

The facts on Bettis' career:

NumYrs Players whose career was of similar quality and shape
3 Robert Holmes, Don Bosseler, Marion Barber, Kevan Barlow, Howie Ferguson, Floyd Little*, Gary W. Anderson, Napoleon Kaufman, Travis Henry, Marshawn Lynch
4 Ted Brown, Lynn Chandnois, Reggie Bush, Brian Westbrook, John Riggins*, Greg Pruitt, Floyd Little*, Dickie Post, Kevin Mack, Alex Webster
5 Brian Westbrook, Frank Gore, Sam Cunningham, Neal Anderson, Delvin Williams, John Brockington, John Riggins*, Larry Csonka*, Jim Taylor*, Sherman Smith
6 John Brockington, Sherman Smith, Sam Cunningham, John Riggins*, Jim Taylor*, Neal Anderson, Delvin Williams, Chuck Muncie, Don Perkins, Larry Csonka*
7 Sam Cunningham, Don Perkins, Tony Nathan, Neal Anderson, Delvin Williams, John Riggins*, Floyd Little*, Mark van Eeghen, Earnest Byner, Larry Csonka*
8 Floyd Little*, Corey Dillon, Don Perkins, Neal Anderson, Earnest Byner, John Riggins*, Earl Campbell*, Greg Pruitt, Jim Taylor*, Ollie Matson*
9 Corey Dillon, Floyd Little*, Earnest Byner, John Riggins*, Jim Taylor*, Ollie Matson*, Ken Willard, Greg Pruitt, Don Perkins, Chuck Muncie
10 Corey Dillon, Floyd Little*, Freeman McNeil, Jim Taylor*, Earnest Byner, Ollie Matson*, Leroy Kelly*, John Riggins*, Ken Willard, John L. Williams
11 Corey Dillon, Freeman McNeil, John Riggins*, Earnest Byner, Floyd Little*, James Brooks, Jim Taylor*, Ollie Matson*, Greg Pruitt, Leroy Kelly*
12 Corey Dillon, John Riggins*, Earnest Byner, Freeman McNeil, Larry Csonka*, James Brooks, Ollie Matson*, Floyd Little*, Herschel Walker, Jim Taylor*
13 Corey Dillon, Earnest Byner, John Riggins*, Ollie Matson*, Freeman McNeil, Larry Csonka*, James Brooks, Floyd Little*, Herschel Walker, Jim Taylor*
Career Corey Dillon, Earnest Byner, Ollie Matson*, Freeman McNeil, Larry Csonka*, James Brooks, Floyd Little*, Herschel Walker, Jim Taylor*, John L. Williams
Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 1/28/2011.

So what do you think about Bettis?

49 Comments | Posted in Great Historical Players, HOF, PI Finds, Running Backs

R.I.P. George Blanda

Posted by Neil Paine on September 28, 2010

I'm sure everyone has seen the news already, but in case you didn't, Hall of Famer George Blanda passed away yesterday at age 83.

Just one look at Blanda's PFR page tells you why this is a significant loss for the game -- Blanda played more seasons (26) than anyone in pro football history, set a scoring record (2002 points) that wouldn't be broken until 25 years after his retirement (he still ranks 5th on the all-time list), played 340 career games (still 4th all-time), tossed 236 TDs (still the 19th-most ever), was the 1st player ever to throw 35 TD passes in a season, led Houston to 2 AFL crowns, won the 1961 AFL and 1970 NFL Player of the Year Awards, was 69th in Chase's pre-2009 QBGOAT rankings despite spending half his career as a kicker... I could go on for days listing Blanda's accolades, or the ways his stat lines caused future generations to do double-takes.

25 Comments | Posted in Best/Worst Ever, Checkdowns, Great Historical Players, History, Obituaries, Player articles, Quarterbacks

Senior Candidates, 2011: Al Wistert

Posted by Jason Lisk on June 14, 2010

Back in February, we discussed profiling Senior nominees for the 2011 Veteran's selections, and solicited input from all of our great readers. I had hoped to start on the profiles after the draft but that did not happen right away. The two finalists are generally announced in late August, so we will be profiling players over the next month or so for consideration. Today, we start with Al Wistert.

Al Wistert is 89 years old and living in Grants Pass, Oregon. For most of the last forty years, he has had very little buzz around his candidacy for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but that has changed over the last few years. Last year, he was inducted into the Philadelphia Eagles Hall of Fame along with Randall Cunningham, and there have been online petitions to get him considered as a senior selection for Canton. So, is this a case of a sentimental selection for a living representative of a bygone era, when football was played both ways by players who rarely left the field? Or is Al Wistert an oversight by the Pro Football Hall of Fame that needs to be corrected by the Senior Selection Committee?

Before I get to that answer, a quick aside. When I was researching Al Wistert, I kept running into confusing references of Al Wistert playing for the Philadelphia Eagles the same year as he was playing for the University of Michigan. As it turns out, there were two Al Wisterts, who were brothers, and who played football at the same time. Actually, three Wistert brothers starred at tackle for the University of Michigan. Francis "Whitey" Wistert (born in 1912) played at Michigan from 1931-1933, and also played baseball and was signed by the Cincinnati Reds. Alvin "Moose" Wistert (born in 1915) did not go to college right away, served in World War II, and played at Michigan after the war, when he was already in his thirties. Albert "Ox" Wistert, the Al Wistert at issue here, was the youngest of the three, but played and starred at Michigan from 1940-1942, before the older Alvin Wistert.

Al Wistert was a natural athlete. He never actually played organized football in high school, and his first game of organized football came when he started for the University of Michigan as a sophomore in 1940 against California.

As an NFL rookie, Wistert was a member of the famous "Steagles" team in 1943, which combined the Pittsburgh and Philadelphia franchises for one season due to the war. The following year, his first officially with the Eagles, Wistert was selected first team all-pro for the first time, and he would go on to be selected by an awarding organization at least once in every remaining year in the decade. Judging by the number of awards each season, he was widely considered the best tackle in the game from 1944 to 1948. Before Wistert arrived in Philadelphia, the franchise had never had a winning record. He was a favorite of coach Greasy Neale and was captain of the team, and played in three consecutive NFL championship games from 1947-1949 as captain.

It's difficult to compare Al Wistert to other candidates for senior selection who played after 1950 because he played a very different game as a two way player, where versatility was far more important. From the accounts I can find, he was considered adept on both sides of the ball in both college and the pros, praised for his technique and variety in offensive blocking, and in his ability to make sure tackles and control his area defensively. Offensively, he blocked in front of Steve Van Buren for one of the best rushing attacks of the era, and defensively, he was part of teams that consistently ranked in the top 3 in both passing and rushing rate stats and recorded shutouts in the 1948 and 1949 championship games. The only way I know to assess Wistert's qualifications for the Hall is to compare him to contemporaries at the same position from the two-way era. During Wistert's time, and in the decade before, numerous awarding organizations named all pro teams, usually between 4 and 7 in a given year. They may have had different criteria, so it gives us a broad view of how players were viewed. From 1930 to 1949 (the unlimited substitution rule went into effect in 1950), 37 different tackles were named to at least one first team all pro team by an awarding organization. Here is a summary of all tackles for this two decade period who were named on at least five distinct first team all pros during this period, with the first column representing the total number of first team selections by different organizations, and the second column representing the total number of discrete seasons in which the player had at least one first team selection.

First Last All Pros Years as All Pro
Al Wistert 24 6
Joe Stydahar 21 5
Turk Edwards 18 8
Bruiser Kinard 16 6
Cal Hubbard 10 3
Dick Huffman 10 3
Bill Morgan 8 2
George Christensen 7 4
Baby Ray 7 4
Ed Widseth 7 2
Willie Wilkin 7 2
Al Blozis 5 1
Fred Davis 5 2

Joe Stydahar, Turk Edwards, Bruiser Kinard and Cal Hubbard, the four men who rank immediately below Wistert on this list, are all enshrined in Canton, and are the only four tackles from this era in the Hall of Fame. Wistert compares more than favorably against the other two way tackles from this two decade period, and clearly separates himself from any other tackle not in Canton. Arguably, by this rough measure of looking at awards, he was the most dominant tackle of this twenty year period, and is in any event, the equal of the other Hall of Famers who were honored long ago.

So why is Wistert still not in the Hall? I suspect it is just that he slipped through the cracks, and if the Hall had been in existence when he retired and he was eligible five years later, he would have been in shortly thereafter. The Pro Football Hall of Fame had its inaugural class in 1963, and was still in its infancy when Wistert was honored by the college football hall of fame in 1968 at about the same time the pro football hall of fame added Stydahar, Kinard, and Edwards. Then, the clear choices among the stars of the late 1950's and early 1960's, who played at a time when the game was hitting greater heights in popularity with television playing a greater role, were reaching eligibility, and those older stars who had not made it in were pushed aside by generations that remembered them less and less with each passing year. You would have to be near eighty years old now to have seen Wistert play, so there are few first hand accounts, and certainly no advanced statistics to rely on. Still, using the awards and how he was perceived at the time, it is pretty clear that Wistert is a glaring omission. He seems like the exact kind of player the Senior Committee should be considering as a strong candidate for inclusion.

18 Comments | Posted in Great Historical Players, HOF

Who is the greatest Charger ever?

Posted by Chase Stuart on February 22, 2010

Yesterday, the Chargers released star running back LaDainian Tomlinson, bringing an end to one of the most successful eras in San Diego history. When Tomlinson was drafted by the Chargers they were the worst team in the league. San Diego had gone 1-15 the year before LT arrived and were still feeling the aftershocks from Hurricane Leaf. As Tomlinson fades into the sunset, the San Diego skies are much brighter: his Chargers have won the AFC West each of the past four seasons. And while general managers John Butler and A.J. Smith have done a masterful job remaking the Chargers, much of San Diego's turnaround in the '00s can be traced back to Tomlinson. But does that make him the best Charger ever?

This is one of those questions that Doug's Approximate Value system was designed to help us answer; using AV we can compare the contributions of players across positions and eras. Here are the 20 players who accumulated the most AV in the 50-year history of San Diego Chargers football (disclaimer: 2009 AV, while incorporated below, has not yet been published by P-F-R):

50 Comments | Posted in Approximate Value, Great Historical Players, History

Ahman Green, Frank Gore, and franchise career rushing records

Posted by Jason Lisk on November 13, 2009

You may have missed it, but Ahman Green re-signed with the Packers earlier this season, and last week he surpassed Jim Taylor as the Green Bay Packers' all-time rushing yardage leader. Very few team rushing records have stood the test of time with the expanded schedules and increased scoring. In fact, now that Green has surpassed Taylor, only two teams have an all-time rushing yardage leader who pre-dated the AFL-NFL merger. While Green benefited from the increased offensive emphasis of the modern game, he actually played in twenty fewer games than Taylor to reach the milestone. The last few yards may have come quietly as a backup for the Packers. Every yard counts the same in the end, though, and gaining over 8,000 yards, particularly with a storied franchise like Green Bay, is a notable milestone. Congratulations, Ahman Green.

I'm sure that every player wants his milestone records to stay in place forever. Sometimes, though, the previous record holder may be more remembered by the surpassing of his record. Jim Taylor is well known to fans who grew up in the 1950's and 1960's. I wonder how many modern fans under the age of 40, though, know about him. I wrote about Taylor recently when I compared his difficult schedule to his contemporary Jim Brown. Brown is one of the two players who still holds the all-time franchise rushing mark and never played after the merger. His 12,312 rushing yards for the Cleveland Browns is probably safe for a long time to come. The longest standing franchise rushing record, though, may be in some jeopardy soon.

18 Comments | Posted in Great Historical Players

Dick Butkus

Posted by Chase Stuart on August 19, 2009

There are two schools of thought on Dick Butkus.

1) He's one of the greatest, if not the greatest, middle linebackers in NFL history. Population: Just about everyone. The Sporting News ranked him as the 9th best player in NFL history. The Associated Press put him at number five. In his prime, he was known as the most feared man in the game. Jonathon Rand, like many sports writers, named him the greatest linebacker of all-time. At the age of 36, he was (and still is) the youngest non-RB to be elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

2) He's the 50th best linebacker in NFL history. Population: Sean Lahman

22 Comments | Posted in Approximate Value, Great Historical Players

Daryle Lamonica: Best Raiders quarterback ever

Posted by Chase Stuart on August 18, 2009

Who is the best quarterback in Raiders history? There are only four candidates worth mentioning. The easiest to dismiss is Jim Plunkett. While he won two Super Bowls, he was not an above average NFL quarterback; in fact, he was slightly below league average in adjusted net yards per attempt (ANY/A) in '80 and dead average in '83, the two years he won those titles. His advanced passing table shows that for his career, he was well below average in ANY/A. He never once ranked as a top ten quarterback in the regular season. He was a terrific playoff performer, but he was simply not as talented or productive as the best three Raiders quarterbacks.

Rich Gannon was a very good quarterback for four seasons with the Raiders, 1999-2002. But even ignoring knocks about him being a system quarterback playing with two HOF receivers, he still never reached Lamonica or Stabler status among Raiders fans. Why? Probably because both of those QBs were great playoff performers, while Gannon had a horrific Super Bowl performance, a bad game (that ended in injury) in an AFC Championship loss to the Ravens, and was on the wrong team the night of the Tuck Rule. He was very good but not great, and most Raiders fans (and football historians) would put either Lamonica or Stabler (or both) above him. Putting Gannon aside, the best QB in Raiders history is mainly a two horse race, with all due respect to all other Oakland and Los Angeles quarterbacks.

What's interesting is most people think (or assume others think) that Stabler stands alone. A quick search for the best QB in Raiders history brings up these results:

29 Comments | Posted in Great Historical Players

Taylor, Brown, and Simpson (the Paradox, not the Juice)

Posted by Jason Lisk on August 4, 2009

Jim Brown is universally recognized as the best running back of all-time. Jim Taylor is in the Hall of Fame as well, but is probably not as well known by the modern fan. Brown checks in at #1 all-time on Chase's Rushing Value list, with Taylor at #16. The two men were contemporaries, with Taylor born about five months before Brown, and Brown entering the league in 1957, one year prior to Taylor.

Here are the per game rushing yards for Jim Taylor and Jim Brown from the 1960-1965 regular seasons. We have rushing game logs back to the 1960 season, and Jim Brown retired after the 1965 season.

Jim Brown: 103.8 rushing yards per game
Jim Taylor: 83.0 rushing yards per game

Jim Taylor has a pretty impressive rushing average (that would equate to averaging over 1,300 rushing yards over a modern 16 game season, for six seasons), but we see that Jim Brown's numbers are other-worldly, and far in excess of Taylor's numbers. So where does the Simpson's reference come in? It is referring to Simpson's paradox, first discussed by Doug back in this post.

As some of you may know, I have been doing a lot of work on the early 1960s in regard to my AFL versus NFL series. I was generally aware of some imbalance between the NFL Western and Eastern Divisions from the decade of the 1960s. Then, Doug, Chase and I were having some recent discussions about schedule adjustments (teaser alert--this may become part of an upcoming series by Chase), and we noticed some pretty significant schedule adjustments for NFL quarterbacks in the 1960s. For those that don't know, back then the NFL Western and Eastern Divisions were very much like we might think of the AFC versus NFC today in regard to scheduling. Teams played almost all of their schedule within their division (or conference today) with a small percentage of games against the other division (or conference). In 1960, NFL teams played 10 division games, 1 game against the other division, and 1 game against the Dallas Cowboys expansion team. From 1961-1965, NFL teams played 12 division and 2 out of division games.

18 Comments | Posted in Great Historical Players