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All Jerry all the time
Once you get started talking about Jerry Rice, it's hard to stop. This post isn't as Rice-centric as previous ones have been, but it was inspired by yesterday's post about how much Rice might or might not have been affected by having Hall of Famers at the quarterback position for much of his career.
I decided to check out the career numbers of Jerry Rice's (and everyone else's) composite quarterback. Here is the plan.
STEP 1: Estimate how many passes Rice caught from each quarterback. For example, in 1989 Rice caught 82 passes. That year, Joe Montana threw 79.9% of the 49ers' passes, Steve Young threw 19.0% of them, and Steve Bono threw 1.1%. So I estimate that Rice caught roughly 65 passes from Montana, 16 from Young, and one from Bono. Of course these are just estimates, but for my purposes that shouldn't cause any problems.
STEP 2: Add up Jerry's career catches from each quarterback and divide by his total career reception total. This gives (an estimate of) the percentage of Jerry's career that was spent with each quarterback.
STEP 3: Find the weighted average career passing yardage totals --- weighted by the percentage above --- of those quarterbacks.
Here is the data for Rice:
Receiver Quarterback PCT CarPassYd
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Jerry Rice Steve Young 38.0 33124
Jerry Rice Joe Montana 22.7 40551
Jerry Rice Rich Gannon 13.0 28743
Jerry Rice Jeff Garcia 7.6 19076
Jerry Rice Elvis Grbac 5.5 16769
Jerry Rice Steve Bono 3.8 10439
Jerry Rice Jeff Kemp 1.9 6230
Jerry Rice Rick Mirer 1.9 11969
Jerry Rice Matt Hasselbeck 1.4 15924
Jerry Rice Steve Stenstrom 0.8 1895
Jerry Rice Mike Moroski 0.7 2864
Jerry Rice Jeff Brohm 0.5 353
Jerry Rice Marques Tuiasosopo 0.4 482
Jerry Rice Ty Detmer 0.4 6351
Jerry Rice Matt Cavanaugh 0.3 4332
Jerry Rice Kerry Collins 0.3 33635
Jerry Rice Bob Gagliano 0.2 3431
Jerry Rice Trent Dilfer 0.2 19352
Jerry Rice Rob Johnson 0.2 5795
Jerry Rice Cary Conklin 0.1 560
Jerry Rice Tee Martin 0.1 69
Jerry Rice Jim Druckenmiller 0.1 239
Jerry Rice Bill Musgrave 0.0 402
Jerry Rice Bobby Hoying 0.0 2544
Jerry Rice Rodney Peete 0.0 16338
So I estimate that 38% of Rice's career was spent with Steve Young at QB, 22.7% with Montana quarterbacking, and so on. The rightmost column is the given quarterback's career passing yardage total. The weighted average of those numbers is 29,088. Roughly speaking, what this means is that The Quarterback Throwing To Jerry Rice was a guy who passed for 29,088 career yards. That's a pretty good quarterback. He would rank 31st in NFL history. And Matt Hasselbeck will add a bit to that before his career is over, but it won't matter too much, as Hasselbeck only accounts for 1.4% of The Quarterback Who Threw To Jerry Rice.
The real question is: how does the 29,088 figure compare to other wide receivers? Here is the list of all receivers who debuted in 1970 or later and have at least 500 career catches:
Receiver Top three quarterbacks (percentage)
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Mark Clayton 58324 Marino (89), Favre (5), Mackey (1),
Mark Duper 57467 Marino (93), Strock (2), Woodley (2),
Terry Glenn 39092 Bledsoe (70), Favre (10), Carter (9),
Ernest Givins 38655 Moon (73), Carlson (12), Brunell (3),
Mark Carrier 36431 Testaverde (50), Collins (22), Beuerlein (6),
Dwight Clark 36309 Montana (77), Deberg (12), Kemp (4),
Drew Hill 35863 Moon (64), Miller (4), Carlson (4),
Haywood Jeffires 35209 Moon (61), Carlson (13), Chandler (7),
Sterling Sharpe 32440 Favre (49), Majkowski (32), Tomczak (5),
Nat Moore 31510 Griese (41), Marino (30), Woodley (12),
Marvin Harrison 30402 Manning (83), Harbaugh (9), Justin (3),
Wes Chandler 30334 Fouts (51), Manning (29), Luther (7),
Cris Carter 29393 Moon (24), Cunningham (17), Johnson (14),
Jerry Rice 29088 Young (38), Montana (22), Gannon (13),
Troy Brown 28717 Brady (53), Bledsoe (43), Zolak (0),
Michael Irvin 28668 Aikman (79), Garrett (5), Beuerlein (3),
Ed McCaffrey 28533 Griese (31), Elway (29), Simms (8),
Andre Reed 26767 Kelly (67), Flutie (10), Reich (6),
Steve Largent 26692 Zorn (46), Krieg (43), Stouffer (2),
Tony Martin 26474 Humphries (35), Marino (22), Chandler (13),
Rod Smith 25816 Griese (36), Plummer (26), Elway (18),
Rob Moore 25432 Esiason (25), Plummer (22), O'Brien (18),
Keenan McCardell 25225 Brunell (53), Johnson (15), Brees (11),
Eric Metcalf 24392 Kosar (29), George (19), Testaverde (12),
Frank Sanders 24390 Plummer (59), Graham (12), Krieg (9),
Wayne Chrebet 24383 Testaverde (34), Pennington (15), O'Donnell (12),
Cliff Branch 24282 Stabler (56), Plunkett (23), Wilson (10),
Amani Toomer 23637 Collins (61), Manning (15), Graham (8),
Keyshawn Johnson 23490 Johnson (27), Testaverde (18), King (10),
Harold Carmichael 23471 Jaworski (54), Gabriel (25), Boryla (9),
Anthony Miller 23423 Elway (25), Humphries (19), Tolliver (13),
Terance Mathis 23220 Chandler (31), George (25), Hebert (11),
Henry Ellard 23203 Everett (51), Frerotte (16), Shuler (6),
Jimmy Smith 22610 Brunell (68), Leftwich (17), Garrard (5),
Randy Moss 22370 Culpepper (59), Cunningham (13), Collins (9),
Al Toon 21915 O'Brien (84), Ryan (7), Nagle (4),
Webster Slaughter 21707 Kosar (47), Moon (15), Carlson (7),
Andre Rison 21682 Miller (24), Gannon (12), Grbac (10),
Eric Moulds 21596 Bledsoe (36), Flutie (22), Johnson (14),
Billy Brooks 21466 Trudeau (27), Kelly (23), George (23),
Gary Clark 21440 Rypien (37), Schroeder (23), Beuerlein (10),
Art Monk 21427 Theismann (36), Rypien (29), Schroeder (14),
Irving Fryar 20701 Marino (16), Detmer (11), Eason (9),
Brian Blades 20628 Mirer (38), Krieg (30), Friesz (6),
Tim Brown 20470 Gannon (32), Hostetler (24), George (11),
Derrick Mason 20013 McNair (64), Volek (13), Boller (8),
Terrell Owens 20013 Garcia (53), Young (19), McNabb (13),
James Lofton 19567 Dickey (39), Kelly (17), Whitehurst (14),
Roy Green 19295 Lomax (64), Rosenbach (9), Hogeboom (7),
Carl Pickens 19281 Blake (59), Klingler (12), O'Donnell (10),
Joe Horn 18976 Brooks (76), Blake (10), Grbac (7),
Stanley Morgan 18704 Grogan (50), Eason (28), Cavanaugh (7),
John Stallworth 17975 Bradshaw (48), Malone (29), Woodley (10),
Brett Perriman 17410 Mitchell (40), Peete (16), Kramer (12),
Muhsin Muhammad 16934 Beuerlein (39), Delhomme (22), Collins (9),
Joey Galloway 16558 Moon (17), Carter (15), Mirer (14),
Eric Martin 16360 Hebert (51), Walsh (15), Wilson (10),
Isaac Bruce 15911 Warner (27), Bulger (22), Banks (17),
JT Smith 15894 Lomax (47), Fuller (15), Kenney (12),
Ricky Proehl 15583 Warner (15), Delhomme (12), Chandler (11),
Herman Moore 14978 Mitchell (52), Batch (13), Peete (9),
Curtis Conway 14952 Kramer (24), Flutie (11), Brees (9),
Jeff Graham 14775 O'Donnell (22), Kramer (21), Harbaugh (11),
Johnnie Morton 14506 Batch (28), Mitchell (28), Green (21),
Torry Holt 14227 Bulger (42), Warner (35), Martin (10),
Hines Ward 10257 Stewart (35), Maddox (34), Roethlisberger (20),
Obviously, comparisons are complicated by the fact that many of the above-listed quarterbacks are still active.
There is lots of interesting stuff there, but time is short, so I'll close by putting in yet another plug for Joey Galloway as a very good and underappreciated wide receiver. Look at the quarterbacks this poor guy has had to play with:
Receiver Quarterback PCT CarPassYd
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Joey Galloway Warren Moon 17.7 49325
Joey Galloway Quincy Carter 15.4 6337
Joey Galloway Rick Mirer 14.9 11969
Joey Galloway Chris Simms 10.6 2502
Joey Galloway Brian Griese 9.3 16344
Joey Galloway John Friesz 9.3 8699
Joey Galloway Jon Kitna 9.0 18259
Joey Galloway Chad Hutchinson 5.9 2466
Joey Galloway Anthony Wright 2.3 3547
Joey Galloway Ryan Leaf 2.0 3666
Joey Galloway Brad Johnson 1.2 25798
Joey Galloway Clint Stoerner 1.1 367
Joey Galloway Troy Aikman 0.4 32942
Joey Galloway Gino Toretta 0.3 41
Joey Galloway Glenn Foley 0.2 2469
Joey Galloway Randall Cunningham 0.2 29979
Joey Galloway Stan Gelbaugh 0.0 2100
Yes, Moon was great, but he was 41 and 42 years old during the two seasons he played with Galloway. Also, he only accounts for 18% of Galloway's Quarterback. About 80% of Galloway's career has been spent with Quincy Carter, Rick Mirer, Chris Simms, Brian Griese, John Friesz, Jon Kitna, Chad Hutchinson, Anthony Wright, and Ryan Leaf. 8500 career receiving yards (and counting) doesn't seem so bad in that context.
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Hey, Ryan Leaf and Quiny Carter are gonna light it up this year!!!!
The crack pipe - that is.
I'm pretty excited about the direction we're heading
This is a study I've been thinking about, but since it's easier to ask Doug than to do it myself...
Hey Doug! Could you try the same study, but looking at yards per attempt instead of total yards?
Forty-three players on that list are ranked on the top 50 all-time receiving yards list. Here are those players, ranked by career yards divided by "average QB." Johnnie Morton soars; Marvin Harrison plummets.
WR Avg QB RY Ratio
Jerry Rice 29088 22895 0.787
Isaac Bruce 15911 12278 0.772
Tim Brown 20470 14934 0.730
James Lofton 19567 14004 0.716
Torry Holt 14227 9487 0.667
Irving Fryar 20701 12785 0.618
Herman Moore 14978 9174 0.612
Johnnie Morton 14506 8719 0.601
Henry Ellard 23203 13777 0.594
Art Monk 21427 12721 0.594
Stanley Morgan 18704 10716 0.573
Ricky Proehl 15583 8848 0.568
Jimmy Smith 22610 12287 0.543
Terrell Owens 20013 10535 0.526
Joey Galloway 16558 8501 0.513
Gary Clark 21440 10856 0.506
Muhsin Muhammad 16934 8501 0.502
Andre Reed 26767 13198 0.493
Steve Largent 26692 13089 0.490
John Stallworth 17975 8723 0.485
Cris Carter 29393 13899 0.473
Andre Rison 21682 10205 0.471
Roy Green 19295 8965 0.465
Randy Moss 22370 10147 0.454
Keenan McCardell 25225 10680 0.423
Rod Smith 25816 10877 0.421
Eric Moulds 21596 9091 0.421
Keyshawn Johnson 23490 9756 0.415
Michael Irvin 28668 11904 0.415
Marvin Harrison 30402 12331 0.406
Anthony Miller 23423 9148 0.391
Harold Carmichael 23471 8985 0.383
Terance Mathis 23220 8809 0.379
Rob Moore 25432 9368 0.368
Cliff Branch 24282 8685 0.358
Tony Martin 26474 9065 0.342
Wes Chandler 30334 8966 0.296
Drew Hill 35863 9831 0.274
Sterling Sharpe 32440 8134 0.251
Mark Carrier 36431 8763 0.241
Mark Duper 57467 8869 0.154
Mark Clayton 58324 8974 0.154
I'm not sure exactly what #4's list ends up showing, from a statistical standpoint.
Bruce is high up, for example, because he had all the Rams QBs of the 90s, Warner, Bulger, and Green. None of those guys started a really long time, so they have low career yardage. But Warner and Bulger were pretty good, and Bruce was great, so he has a lot of yards. Does the high rank mean he was a key cog in the offensive machine? Not really. Torry Holt has outproduced him for years in Saint Louis. Torry Holt, incidentally, is also really high up there, despite being so young, for the same reasons. Warner and Bulger are pretty good, but have low career numbers for various reasons.
So Bruce is 2nd among receivers in... what, exactly?
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Yaguar: It SUGGESTS, I think, that the players at the top of the list were more responsible for their teams' success than their QBs, whereas the players on the bottom of the list were "carried" by great QBs. It's not conclusive of anything, it was just something I threw together in 5 minutes to see what would happen.
So i have kindof a random question that is actually a follow up to a question asked by a guy named brandon on aug. 14, JKL gave the formula for why the chiefs would have played the dolphins twice in the same season, and i figured that the formula would have been the same for the teams in the nfc but it is not. so i was just wandering if anyone knows the formula for the nfc.