New Jersey, New Jersey
Posted by Jason Lisk on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
Last week on the New York Times Fifth Down blog, Toni Monkovic pointed out that Eli Manning has a better record on the road than at home as a starting quarterback. Several theories were posted in the comments, ranging from the winds at the Meadowlands to the Giants' fans behavior. One that was not mentioned, though, was the effect that sharing a stadium with the New York Jets may have on the home field advantage at the Meadowlands. In the past, I have written about the possible role of road team familiarity on home field advantage when discussing similar climate division rivals, when looking at the effect of new stadiums, and when looking at playoff rematches.
The two franchises have shared a home stadium since 1984, when the Jets left Shea stadium. The Giants had been playing at the Meadowlands since 1976. This situation is virtually unique in American sports. The only other situations I am aware of where two professional football teams shared a stadium at the same time (other than occasional games or emergency situations) were in the early days of the AFL, when both Dallas teams played in the Cotton Bowl, and when Oakland played in Kezar stadium, home of the San Fransisco 49ers, in 1960. And in those cases, the leagues and opponents did not intermix. The franchises will continue the shared stadium relationship when they move into the New Meadowlands complex next season.
Does the decision to share a stadium (again) have a potential effect on the home field advantage that the two New York franchises will have in the New Meadowlands? Let's start by looking at the home field advantage rankings of every franchise since 1984, when the Jets and Giants began sharing the Meadowlands, by looking at the difference between home and road winning percentage. These are updated through the end of the 2008 season and include regular season only.
rank team home away diff. ======================================================= 1 kan 0.668 0.380 +0.288 2 den 0.745 0.475 +0.270 3 rav 0.649 0.385 +0.264 4 min 0.655 0.422 +0.233 5 tam 0.533 0.305 +0.228 6 crd 0.477 0.263 +0.215 7 htx 0.464 0.250 +0.214 8 pit 0.686 0.475 +0.211 9 sea 0.610 0.402 +0.208 10 det 0.480 0.275 +0.205 11 buf 0.600 0.397 +0.203 12 cin 0.498 0.302 +0.196 13 gnb 0.638 0.447 +0.190 14 chi 0.630 0.447 +0.183 15 jax 0.616 0.438 +0.179 16 atl 0.503 0.324 +0.178 17 dal 0.608 0.440 +0.168 18 mia 0.638 0.480 +0.158 19 oti 0.608 0.455 +0.153 20 sdg 0.538 0.390 +0.148 21 was 0.590 0.445 +0.145 22 sfo 0.678 0.553 +0.126 23 phi 0.613 0.490 +0.123 24 ram 0.523 0.410 +0.113 25 new 0.615 0.503 +0.112 26 rai 0.530 0.422 +0.108 27 nyg 0.615 0.510 +0.105 28 clt 0.565 0.462 +0.103 29 nyj 0.498 0.417 +0.080 29 car 0.527 0.446 +0.080 31 cle 0.454 0.386 +0.068 32 nor 0.492 0.465 +0.027 =======================================================
The Giants and Jets both finish in the bottom 6 in home/road differential since 1984, with the Giants at 27th and the Jets tied for 29th (out of 32 teams). But those numbers are for the overall period, now let's break that down into five year blocks to see what the combined home/road splits have been for the two franchises since 1984.
Five year records, Giants and Jets combined, since 1984
Home Pct Away Pct Difference ======================================================== 1984-1988 0.681 0.474 +0.207 1989-1993 0.538 0.463 +0.075 1994-1998 0.488 0.381 +0.106 1999-2003 0.513 0.513 +0.000 2004-2008 0.568 0.481 +0.087 ========================================================
The Giants were +0.122 in home/road differential from 1976-1983, prior to the Jets moving in to the stadium. We see that since 1989 (the sixth year after sharing a stadium), the home field advantage for the two franchises has been even lower (+0.067 home/road differential).
Now, why could road team familiarity play a role in reducing the Giants' and Jets' home field advantage? Because teams play there more frequently than other venues. Once the Lions play at the Giants later this year, every team will have played in the Meadowlands at least once (and often times more than once) in the last five years.
The home field advantage in interconference matchups has typically been higher than other matchups. However, when interconference road teams visit the New York teams, they are not visiting a place they see only once a decade. We should see reduced home field advantage, particularly in games against the other New York team's division rivals, who already play there once a year.
And that is exactly what we see in the games where the Giants and Jets play the AFC/NFC East in interconference matchups at home. New York Teams are only 5-15 at home against all other AFC/NFC East in interconference matchups since 1984. The specific matchups dictate some of that record, but even accounting for relative team strength, the New York teams have very little home field advantage in these games. For comparison, in all other AFC East versus NFC East matchups (other than those played at the Meadowlands), the home team is 67-49 (.577).
So how much does sharing a stadium impact the home field advantage? I don't think you can just look at the average home field advantage league-wide. The New York teams have other factors at play, besides sharing a stadium, that should reduce home field advantage. They play in divisions with close proximity rivals who also play outdoors. They have a lot of other opponents near them geographically as well. If the Giants played in a division with the Buccaneers, Saints and Falcons, I would expect them to show a higher home/road differential. We also don't know how strong the Giants' home field advantage would have been if the Jets had moved into a different stadium back in 1984. We can, however, make some educated estimates. The three division opponents that are within 200 miles of the Meadowlands (Patriots, Redskins, and Eagles) do all show below average home/road splits at +0.127 combined. The Giants, in the eight years before the Jets moved in, had a similar split, at +0.122. Using an estimate of +0.125, and comparing that to the home/road splits over the last twenty years at the Meadowlands, results in a difference of 0.058 per year. Multiplying that by 8 home games equals about 0.46 home wins per year per team.
I want to expressly state that I am not taking a position on whether the Giants or Jets should have continued their relationship into a new stadium, or whether the Raiders and 49ers should also consider such a possibility. Financial and political considerations obviously play a big role in both cases. I am just pointing out that a team may derive some competitive advantage from not sharing a stadium, which of course may be more than counterbalanced by all the other considerations (getting a better stadium with more amenities and more income by having a shared arrangement, or even getting a stadium at all).
As for Eli, I don't think it has anything to do with him or any one individual player. I don't think he started a single game in the Meadowlands from 1999-2003, when the two New York teams combined to win as many on the road as at home. I fully expect the two New York teams to experience a marked increase in home field advantage in the first few years in the new stadium, and for that to dissipate over time. In a few years, I expect that we will hear how Eli and the Giants do so much better at home than they used to.
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I tried doing a home/road comparison once, too. One thing that you have to keep in mind is the assumption that, just because the total of (home record - road record) is low doesn't necessarily mean that a team doesn't have much of a home-field advantage. It might also mean that they are just good on the road. If the Giants had a .410 winning percentage on the road (instead of .510, which is the second-best mark in your list), they'd be +.205 and tied with Detroit. Nobody thinks of Detroit as having the 10th best home-field advantage, just that they're an awful, awful road team.
Posted on 14-Oct-09 at 9:02 am | PermalinkWhen did new england change from NWE to NEW?
Posted on 14-Oct-09 at 10:07 am | PermalinkJust curious if anyone here has picked up the book Not In Our House! A Decade of Home Court Advantage in American Sports by Tom Freijo. It apparently reviews and discusses existing home field advantage research in football, basketall, and baseball, both college and pro. I heard him interviewed on a radio show recently and he argued that crowd noise was biggest factor (among others) in producing HFA, noting that HFA is largest in basketball and smallest in baseball (apparently he didn't study hockey or soccer); and that HFA is larger across all three sports in college, where students tend to be louder.
That got me thinking about all the work Jason has done here suggesting that familiarity is such a strong factor in the NFL. Perhaps familiarity issues show up more notably in NFL data because there are smaller differences in crowd noise from one stadium to the next, as compared to basketball and baseball. Stadiums tend to be filled to higher capacities at NFL games due to the blackout rule and the shorter schedule.
Posted on 14-Oct-09 at 8:55 pm | Permalink"When did new england change from NWE to NEW?"
apparently, when my excel spreadsheet decided to spellcheck that particular entry and change it to the word it thought was intended.
Posted on 15-Oct-09 at 8:27 am | PermalinkHahaha, fair enough.
Posted on 15-Oct-09 at 5:03 pm | PermalinkSome other major sports franchises that have shared venues:
The Lakers and Clippers have shared the Staples Center since it opened about a decade ago.
UCLA and USC football shared the LA Coliseum for a period of time until the late 70's/early 80's.
Posted on 15-Oct-09 at 9:11 pm | PermalinkA few more comparisons would make this argument more persuasive. The 5 year comparison is better than single season, but combining Giants' and Jets' records isn't so valuable. It has been claimed that the Jets never had a substantial home field advantage in NJ. Their home location was Long Island and they commuted to Meadowlands for games. The 5 year records of each team separate would be preferable. Also NFL teams play in their division each season. A comparison of home field advantage for all teams within the division, within conference and inter-conference would show any correlation between home field and familiarity of opponents.
Posted on 16-Oct-09 at 5:37 am | PermalinkJohn, you might be interested to know, then, that the Jets have a larger home vs. road differential than the Giants since 1989 (not that it's very big, it would still rank near the bottom). The Giants have a better winning percentage on the road than home over the last ten years. I've got every season, but just grouped them into 5 year groups by both teams to increase sample size and smooth it out a little.
Here are the five year groups for each franchise:
GIANTS
84-88: 0.750/ 0.487/ 0.263
89-93: 0.725/ 0.575/ 0.150
94-98: 0.525/ 0.438/ 0.088
99-03: 0.475/ 0.525/-0.050
04-08: 0.585/ 0.590/-0.004
JETS
Posted on 16-Oct-09 at 6:28 am | Permalink84-88: 0.613/ 0.462/ 0.151
89-93: 0.350/ 0.400/-0.050
94-98: 0.450/ 0.325/ 0.125
99-03: 0.525/ 0.525/ 0.000
04-08: 0.550/ 0.375/ 0.175
"Now, why could road team familiarity play a role in reducing the Giants' and Jets' home field advantage? Because teams play there more frequently than other venues. Once the Lions play at the Giants later this year, every team will have played in the Meadowlands at least once (and often times more than once) in the last five years."
If opponent familiarity was impacting on hfa wouldn't you notice the effect on both the Jets and the Giants? The combined split for both teams in 2004-2008 is roughly in line with your previous years,but it's made up of a split of minus 0.06 for the Giants (a league low) and plus 0.2 for the Jets and by the methodology used that puts the Jets as the 7th best in hfa in the league over the period.
"New York Teams are only 5-15 at home against all other AFC/NFC East in interconference matchups since 1984."
Surely sample size and timescale issues here.For example from 2004 to 2008 the Giants went 13-4(0.77) in road games where either side was favoured by a field goal or less,whereas the league as a whole was hitting around 0.5.But I would be very wary of using taking it at face value.Small game samples are weighed down with alot of luck and uncertainty.
"We also don't know how strong the Giants' home field advantage would have been if the Jets had moved into a different stadium back in 1984. We can, however, make some educated estimates. The three division opponents that are within 200 miles of the Meadowlands (Patriots, Redskins, and Eagles) do all show below average home/road splits at +0.127 combined."
Dangerous to extrapolate hfa even for the same team.By the methodology Green Bay had the best hfa from 1994-1999 and the 29th best from 2004 to 2009.
Posted on 16-Oct-09 at 8:41 am | PermalinkThe Los Angeles Rams and the Los Angeles Chargers shared the Los Angeles Coliseum in 1960, along with USC and UCLA college football. The Chargers moved to San Diego in 1961.
In baseball, the Dodgers and Angels shared Dodger Stadium from 1962 to 1965. The Angels called the park "Chavez Ravine".
Posted on 27-Oct-09 at 9:52 pm | Permalink