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Who knows how long this will continue, but it's another week and we've got another podcast.
In this episode, Chase talks about Paul Hornung and Doug talks about the 1995 Eagles.
You can listen here. Or, if you're an iTunes kind of podcast listener, you should be able to drag this link here into your podcast directory in order to subscribe to the podcast.
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Great podcast! In regard to Hornung, I have no idea if he's a legit HOF'er. You make an excellent case that he isn't. but you asked if you missed something Maybe you do. Maybe you're looking at it the wrong way, maybe he's legit as a kigker? I mean kicker inductees are pretty few and only one (!) is in the HOF as a placekicker alone (Stenerud). You said Hornung had a very bad year, but how does he rank, career-wise, on our kicker-rankings?
Hornung probably doesn't deserve a HOF slot. They should give his to Jerry Kramer. Sure he had a monster year, so he got to hold an NFL record for points for a good long while. Besides haven't people like Karim Abdul-Jabbar lead the league in touchdowns before?
Love the podcast but I'm having trouble subscribing via iTunes. Can anyone give me a more detailed explanation of how to do so? Thanks.
DDF, the problem is Hornung was only a kicker for six seasons and was only a very good kicker for one year. He's listed in the HOF as a RB, and there have been so many better kickers in history that it's clear he's being inducted primarily for his ability as an all around player. That's mostly him as a running back (rushing, blocking, catching) but also him as a special teams guy, kicker and passer.
BigCheese,
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As of right now, if you go to iTunes and search for us, we're not there. That will happen eventually, but probably not for several weeks.
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But if you know the direct URL to our feed, you can still subscribe. Here's what I did.
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1. open iTunes and go to your podcast directory.
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2. drag this link into that iTunes directory.
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That's all it took. And now the p-f-r podcast is updating just like all my other podcasts do. If that doesn't work, you might try going to
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Advanced ---> subscribe to podcast
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from within iTunes. Then put in this URL:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/podcast/feed.xml
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Can anyone else confirm (or deny) that either of these methods works?
The dragging method worked for me.
Good stuff guys. I don't really mind a longer format than initially planned, but it would be nice to get through more than 2 segments per episode IMO.
As to Hornung I tend to agree with you guys that his contributions as a kicker or as a running back do not qualify him as a HOFer. It does seem that players who played on great teams get a little advantage (I think they should). It is possible that: contributions as a RB + contributions as a kicker + he was on a generally great team = HOF? You didn't mention his postseason performances at all IIRC, could this also be what you missed?
Second method worked perfectly for me. I blame vista for the first one not working.
Thanks!
I haven't listened yet, but I really enjoyed the first 2 shows. I hope you are able to continue with these on a regular basis. It's a very cool format. I love looking deeper into statistical anomalies. I love hearing stories about things I've never heard before. Great stuff. I'd be willing to pay a small subscription fee for future shows.
Thanks for the comments, guys. We're going to do our best to give you guys whatever you want, so don't be bashful.
I think its legit to wonder about the validity of some HOF'ers, knowing its being done post hoc and with a different perspective. If I was to guess why he got in, it probably had a lot to do with his celebrity status--the Golden Boy from ND, former Heisman winner, his success in big games, and being part of most of the GB championships. His all around play certainly was one of the those holdover features from another era. Should he be in? Maybe as a "legend", kind of like how Bob Hayes did (one of my favorites from the past). One player I question--again probably celebrity status as an influence--was Bob Waterfield.
Another great listen fellas. I can't wait for another episode!