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Posted by Chase Stuart on August 6, 2007

Do you know who holds the modern record for yards per completion in a season? It's Jack Kemp, the former Buffalo Bills QB and United States Congressman. In 1964, Kemp averaged 19.20 yards per completion, easily the most for any QB since 1960 with at least 200 pass attempts. Here's a list of the top 20 QBs:

19.20	Jack Kemp	1964	buf
18.59	Tom Flores	1963	rai
17.87	Johnny Unitas	1964	clt
17.83	Craig Morton	1970	dal
17.81	George Blanda	1961	oti
17.75	Ed Brown	1963	pit
17.61	Bobby Layne	1960	pit
17.47	Tom Flores	1966	rai
17.39	Norm Snead	1963	was
17.38	Joe Namath	1972	nyj
17.13	Don Meredith	1965	dal
16.99	Terry Bradshaw	1970	pit
16.84	Eric Hipple	1981	det
16.83	Joe Namath	1968	nyj
16.70	John Hadl	1968	sdg
16.70	John Brodie	1961	sfo
16.64	Sonny Jurgensen	1962	phi
16.61	Cotton Davidson	1962	rai
16.60	Chris Chandler	1998	atl
16.45	Greg Landry	1971	det
16.45	Ed Brown	1964	pit
16.42	Jim Ninowski	1961	det
16.31	Johnny Unitas	1960	clt
16.28	Jack Kemp	1961	sdg
16.27	Jay Schroeder	1988	rai

And the bottom 25 QBs:

8.43	Bobby Hoying	1998	phi
8.94	Donovan McNabb	1999	phi
8.95	Doug Pederson	2000	cle
9.12	Mark Rypien	1993	was
9.15	Kordell Stewart	1999	pit
9.16	David Carr	2006	htx
9.31	Kelly Holcomb	2003	cle
9.32	Joey Harrington	2003	det
9.38	Bruce Gradkowski2006	tam
9.50	Gary Huff	1975	chi
9.56	Joe Namath	1976	nyj
9.62	Dan Pastorini	1973	oti
9.65	Anthony Wright	2005	rav
9.67	Roman Gabriel	1974	phi
9.70	Hugh Millen	1992	nwe
9.72	David Carr	2005	htx
9.74	Kelly Holcomb	2005	buf
9.74	Charlie Frye	2006	cle
9.77	Boomer Esiason	1992	cin
9.84	Kyle Orton	2005	chi
9.84	Jim McMahon	1993	min
9.85	Shane Matthews	1999	chi
9.85	Patrick Ramsey	2004	was
9.89	Mike Livingston	1978	kan
9.91	A.J. Feeley	2004	mia

Certainly, Kemp's 1964 season is interesting because of his high yards per completion rate. But there are some other peculiar notes about his stat line. Kemp completed an abysmal 44.2 percent of his passes, converting 119 of 269 passes. There have been 1280 quarterbacks to throw 200 passes in a season since 1960: Kemp ranks as the 27th worst on the list. In Mike Shanahan's only full season with the Raiders, both his QBs completed 44.1% of his passes. No wonder he didn't stay in California for very long. Here's a list of the worst 30:

35.3%	Gary Marangi	1976	buf
36.1%	Dick Wood	1966	mia
37.1%	Cotton Davidson	1962	rai
38.1%	Terry Bradshaw	1970	pit
39.0%	Johnny Green	1960	buf
39.8%	Tom Sherman	1968	nwe
40.3%	Steve Tensi	1967	den
40.4%	Bobby Douglass	1971	chi
40.6%	Babe Parilli	1965	nwe
40.7%	John McCormick	1965	den
41.0%	Pete Beathard	1967	oti
41.2%	John Hadl	1962	sdg
41.2%	Rusty Hilger	1988	det
41.4%	Jim Zorn	1977	sea
41.8%	Doug Williams	1979	tam
42.1%	George Blanda	1965	oti
42.7%	Jack Kemp	1966	buf
42.7%	Joe Pisarcik	1977	nyg
42.8%	Dan Darragh	1968	buf
43.5%	Bob Avellini	1976	chi
43.6%	Jack Kemp	1967	buf
43.7%	Randy Johnson	1966	atl
44.1%	George Herring	1961	den
44.1%	Steve Beuerlein	1988	rai
44.1%	Jay Schroeder	1988	rai
44.2%	Akili Smith	2000	cin
44.2%	Jack Kemp	1964	buf
44.3%	Jim Hart	1968	crd
44.5%	Ed Brown	1964	pit
44.7%	Vince Evans	1981	chi

And the best 30:

70.6%	Ken Anderson	1982	cin
70.3%	Steve Young	1994	sfo
70.2%	Joe Montana	1989	sfo
69.3%	Brian Griese	2004	tam
69.2%	Chad Pennington	2002	nyj
69.2%	Daunte Culpepper2004	min
69.1%	Troy Aikman	1993	dal
68.7%	Kurt Warner	2001	ram
68.3%	David Carr	2006	htx
68.0%	Steve Young	1993	sfo
67.8%	Carson Palmer	2005	cin
67.7%	Kurt Warner	2000	ram
67.7%	Steve Young	1996	sfo
67.7%	Steve Young	1997	sfo
67.6%	Rich Gannon	2002	rai
67.6%	Peyton Manning	2004	clt
67.4%	Kelly Holcomb	2005	buf
67.3%	Peyton Manning	2005	clt
67.3%	Steve Bartkowski1984	atl
67.0%	Peyton Manning	2003	clt
66.9%	Marc Bulger	2005	ram
66.9%	Steve Young	1995	sfo
66.8%	Joe Montana	1987	sfo
66.7%	Brian Griese	2002	den
66.7%	Ken Stabler	1976	rai
66.7%	Ken Anderson	1983	cin
66.7%	Steve Young	1992	sfo
66.4%	Ben Roethlisberger2004	pit
66.4%	Trent Green	2004	kan
66.3%	Peyton Manning	2002	clt

Those large data dumps are just the background for this post. Because Kemp's season gets even more interesting. Kemp threw 13 TDs against 26 INTs in 1964, which is pretty incredible considering he only had 269 pass attempts. His 9.67 INTs per 100 pass attempts ranks as the 5th worst of those 1280 QBs. Here are the top and bottom 10 INT rates:

11.1	Eddie LeBaron	1960	dal
11.0	Terry Bradshaw	1970	pit
10.4	George Herring	1961	den
10.0	George Blanda	1962	oti
9.7	Jack Kemp	1964	buf
9.4	Norm Snead	1973	nyg
9.2	John Hadl	1962	sdg
8.9	Dennis Shaw	1971	buf
8.6	Joe Namath	1975	nyj
8.5	Ralph Guglielmi	1960	was

0.4	Damon Huard	2006	kan
0.9	Steve Deberg	1990	kan
1.2	Steve Bartkowski1983	atl
1.2	Neil O'Donnell	1998	cin
1.2	Brian Griese	2000	den
1.2	Bart Starr	1966	gnb
1.3	Phil Simms	1990	nyg
1.3	Jim Harbaugh	1997	clt
1.3	Doug Flutie	2000	buf
1.3	Brad Johnson	2002	tam

That's right, Damon Huard last season had the lowest INT rate of the 1,280 QBs since 1960 to throw 200 passes in a season.

So roughly, every 20 times Jack Kemp threw a pass, he would have nine 20-yard completions, with one of those going for a TD, two INTs, and nine incompletions. Maybe it's the AFL'er in me, but that sounds pretty exciting to watch. So I've decided to come up with a fun index, centered around Mr. Kemp. Without putting too much thought into this (since this is, after all, filed under 'totally useless'), here's the formula:

[ ((Interceptions + Touchdowns) X 25) + Passing Yards ] / Completions

It's basically yards per completion, with a bonus for "big plays." Since both passing TDs and INTs are big plays, I weighed them the same. Both are fun to see.

Kemp had a fun score of 27.39, the highest in the modern era. He had 13 TDs, 26 INTs, 2285 passing yards and 119 completions. I think this "fun score" formula approximates what we're trying to get at, and since Kemp topped the list, I'm happy. Here are the top 30 most fun seasons to watch since 1960:

Fun	Player		Year	Team	Cmp	Yard	TD	INT
27.39	Jack Kemp	1964	buf	119	2285	13	26
26.02	Terry Bradshaw	1970	pit	83	1410	 6	24
25.89	Tom Flores	1963	rai	113	2101	20	13
25.56	George Blanda	1961	oti	187	3330	36	22
24.89	Bobby Layne	1960	pit	103	1814	13	17
24.63	Jim Zorn	1977	sea	104	1687	16	19
23.85	Ed Brown	1963	pit	168	2982	21	20
23.79	John Hadl	1968	sdg	208	3473	27	32
23.76	Tom Flores	1966	rai	151	2638	24	14
23.56	Joe Namath	1972	nyj	162	2816	19	21
23.33	Don Meredith	1965	dal	141	2415	22	13
23.23	Craig Morton	1970	dal	102	1819	15	 7
23.10	Norm Snead	1963	was	175	3043	13	27
22.92	Cotton Davidson	1962	rai	119	1977	 7	23
22.85	Ed Brown	1964	pit	121	1990	12	19
22.85	Norm VanBrocklin1960	phi	153	2471	24	17
22.81	Cotton Davidson	1961	kan	151	2445	17	23
22.76	Sonny Jurgensen	1962	phi	196	3261	22	26
22.76	Johnny Unitas	1960	clt	190	3099	25	24
22.75	Y.A. Tittle	1962	nyg	200	3224	33	20
22.56	Cotton Davidson	1964	rai	155	2497	21	19
22.54	Bill Wade	1961	chi	139	2258	22	13
22.27	Charley Johnson	1962	crd	150	2440	16	20
22.03	Jay Schroeder	1988	rai	113	1839	13	13
22.02	Eric Hipple	1981	det	140	2358	14	15
21.99	Matt Robinson	1978	nyj	124	2002	13	16
21.97	John Hadl	1965	sdg	174	2798	20	21
21.89	Earl Morrall	1968	clt	182	2909	26	17
21.88	Jack Kemp	1961	sdg	165	2686	15	22
21.83	Johnny Unitas	1964	clt	158	2824	19	 6

Of note: two pre-1960 QBs even beat mighty Jack. In 1943, Sid Luckman (29.04) had 110 completions (on 202 attempts), 2,194 passing yards, 28 TDs and 12 INTs. But if you lower the bar to 100 attempts, no one could match Joe Geri: despite completing just 41 of 113 passes (36.3%), he passed for 866 yards (21.12 yards per completion). Throw in 15 INTs and 6 TDs, and he has a fun score of 33.93.

You might notice that there aren't any QBs on the fun score list since 1990. Here are the top 25 most fun seasons since then:

Fun	Player			Year	Team	Cmp	Yard	TD	INT
21.47	Chris Chandler		1998	atl	190	3154	25	12
19.50	Jay Schroeder		1990	rai	182	2849	19	 9
19.32	Jeff George		1999	min	191	2816	23	12
19.10	Chris Miller		1991	atl	220	3103	26	18
18.81	Jake Plummer		1997	crd	157	2203	15	15
18.74	Kurt Warner		2000	ram	235	3429	21	18
18.67	Boomer Esiason		1990	cin	224	3031	24	22
18.55	Randall Cunningham	1998	min	259	3704	34	10
18.40	Heath Shuler		1994	was	120	1658	10	12
18.25	Vinny Testaverde	1993	cle	130	1797	14	 9
18.23	Mark Rypien		1991	was	249	3564	28	11
18.19	Vinny Testaverde	1990	tam	203	2818	17	18
18.07	Ben Roethlisberger	2005	pit	168	2385	17	 9
18.04	Donovan McNabb		2006	phi	180	2647	18	 6
17.95	Peyton Manning		2004	clt	336	4557	49	10
17.92	Billy Joe Tolliver	1999	nor	139	1916	 7	16
17.85	Trent Green		2000	ram	145	2063	16	 5
17.81	Donald Hollas		1998	rai	135	1754	10	16
17.66	Jay Schroeder		1991	rai	189	2562	15	16
17.60	Rodney Peete		1990	det	142	1974	13	 8
17.55	Kurt Warner		1999	ram	325	4353	41	13
17.50	Rodney Peete		1992	det	123	1702	 9	 9
17.49	Jeff Blake		1994	cin	156	2154	14	 9
17.46	Steve Young		1991	sfo	180	2517	17	 8
17.38	Daunte Culpepper	2000	min	297	3937	33	16

I think it's safe to say that Jay Schroeder was a pretty darn fun QB to watch: he's on this list twice, and his 1988 season even cracked the original list. Whatever happened, it sure wasn't boring. And don't be too surprised to see Chandler at the top of this list. The 1998 Falcons had Tony Martin and Terance Mathis catch 130 balls for 2,317 yards, 17.8 yards per catch. Chandler was incredible that season, leading Atlanta to the Super Bowl. A few of the players on here -- Jeff George, Vinny Testaverde, Jeff Blake -- were physical talents with rocket arms and exciting games, but will never be remembered as winners. And check out the 2000 Rams, with two QBs on this list. That was the Rams team that saw 1,011 points scored in their games, easily the most in league history.

How about the reverse? Here are the 25 most boring QB seasons since 1990.

Fun	Player			Year	Team	Cmp	Yard	TD	INT
10.40	Bobby Hoying		1998	phi	114	 961	 0	 9
11.07	David Carr		2006	htx	302	2767	11	12
11.09	Doug Pederson		2000	cle	117	1047	 2	 8
11.23	Mark Rypien		1993	was	166	1514	 4	10
11.65	Kordell Stewart		1999	pit	160	1464	 6	10
11.78	Brad Johnson		2001	tam	340	3406	13	11
11.85	Jeff George		1991	clt	292	2910	10	12
11.93	Bruce Gradkowski	2006	tam	177	1661	 9	 9
11.93	Anthony Wright		2005	rav	164	1582	 6	 9
11.97	Jim McMahon		1993	min	200	1968	 9	 8
12.15	Steve Walsh		1994	chi	208	2078	10	 8
12.16	David Klingler		1993	cin	190	1935	 6	 9
12.16	David Carr		2005	htx	256	2488	14	11
12.16	Kelly Holcomb		2003	cle	193	1797	10	12
12.19	Rich Gannon		2003	rai	125	1274	 6	 4
12.24	Kyle Boller		2004	rav	258	2559	13	11
12.25	Shane Matthews		1999	chi	167	1645	10	 6
12.26	Jim Harbaugh		1993	chi	200	2002	 7	11
12.29	Jeff George		1993	clt	234	2526	 8	 6
12.37	Kurt Warner		2002	ram	144	1431	 3	11
12.40	Rich Gannon		1991	min	211	2166	12	 6
12.41	Brad Johnson		2006	min	270	2750	 9	15
12.42	Charlie Frye		2006	cle	252	2454	10	17
12.42	Brad Johnson		2005	min	184	1885	12	 4
12.48	Joey Harrington		2003	det	309	2880	17	22

Bobby Hoying was just awful: he had a 45.6 QB rating for the season. But the 2006 version of David Carr embodies exactly what the formula was intended to find -- really boring QBs. He was everything that Jack Kemp was not. You might remember that Carr tied the NFL single game record for consecutive completions against the Bills last season (sorry, Bill M.). While impressive, note that Carr threw for exactly 202 yards during that stretch. That ugly 9.18 yards per completion average barely topped his season average of 9.16 YPC. There was nothing interesting about the Texans' passing game last year, as Carr completed a ton of short passes for not very many yards. Eleven TDs on 442 passes isn't very exciting to watch. Maybe if Houston had drafted Reggie Bush, they would have been just a bit more fun.

Brad Johnson (2001 - Tampa, 2005-2006 - Minnesota) hasn't been very fun to watch, either. Thankfully him and Carr aren't starting anymore. But here's something interesting: Jeff George (twice), Kurt Warner and Mark Rypien all appear on the boring list, despite also appearing on the fun list! George was incredibly boring as a Colt in 1991, but eight years later he had the third most fun season since 1990 with the Vikings. That should finally settle the debate that Bill Brooks and Jessie Hester were no Randy Moss and Cris Carter. Warner was really fun with the Rams in 1999 and 2000, but by 2002 he had become boring. Throwing 11 INTs was the only thing he did that was exciting -- he had just 3 TD passes in 220 attempts that season. Similarly, Rypien was great and fun to watch in 1991, but two years later, he ran a boring and incompetent 'Skins offense. Amazingly, he had only 4 TDs in 319 attempts that year.

As you might imagine, there aren't very many boring QBs from before 1990. Only five QBs had scores below 13.00, and none were below 12.00. Gary Huff (1975, Chicago) was the most boring, followed by Roman Gabriel (1974, Philadelphia), Greg Landry (1977, Detroit), Eric Hipple (1986, Detroit) and Mike Livingston (1978, Kansas City).

Tomorrow, we'll switch from a seasons view to a careers view, and see how the QBs stack up.

16 Responses to “Fun QBs”

  1. Bill M. Says:

    Honorable mention to Joe Ferguson, who threw just 1 INT in 1976, out of a possible 151.

  2. MattyP Says:

    Wow - kinda says a lot about how the passing game significantly changed in the 80s. Thank you, Bill Walsh.

  3. Richie Says:

    This is pretty interesting, because conventional wisdom says that passing is a bigger part of the offense now than it was prior to 1978. But these number say that the passing game is more conservative now than it was before 1978.

  4. NewsToTom Says:

    For the record, Greg Cook in 1969 had 197 ATT, so he just misses Chase's cutoff. If included, he'd rank 8th with 17.49 ypc and 11th in "fun score" with 23.62. The Bengals' other QB that year was Sam Wyche, 15.52 ypc and 20.61 fun score. Combined, they had 16.83 ypc and a fun score of 22.61.

  5. Ryan Says:

    I know its obvious how effecient Steve Young was, but wow he made the highest % list 6 times, wow!!

  6. Vince Says:

    3: Conventional wisdom is correct, in that teams pass a lot more now than they used to. But when they pass, they pass shorter. That's why it amused me when they were discussing Dick LeBeau's high interception totals as a player with the Lions. They pointed out that teams passed less in LeBeau's era than they do today, conveniently ignoring that teams actually threw MORE interceptions then. In 2006, NFL teams averaged 1.016 INTs per game. In 1966, when LeBeau made the Pro Bowl, NFL teams averaged 1.519 INTs per game.

    I was expecting to see Joe Montana all over the boring lists.

  7. brian Says:

    Enjoyed this list a lot and looking forward to tomorrow.

    One note--even if a modern QB has a shorter yds/completion average, he may have had just as many deep passes as some of the old-school QBs. He might just have more short passes in more total attempts.

    I'm surprised not to see every Ravens QB since Testaverde on the boring list.

  8. Bill M. Says:

    Here's a radical thought....

    Consider the following scenarios.
    (A) The play starts at the 50 yard line. The quarterback hits the wide receiver at the 42 and he runs all the way for a touchdown.
    (B) The play starts at the 50 yard line. The quarterback hits the wide receiver at the 5 yard line and he goes into the end zone for a touchdown.
    The way it's always been, the quarterback gets credit for an attempt, a completion, 50 passing yards, and a touchdown pass. The WR gets credit for a reception, 50 receiving yards, and a touchdown.
    --
    What if everything prior to the ball being caught was credited to the QB, and everything from the catch onward was credited to the guy who did it, the WR?
    --
    With this change, the stats would be affected as follows:
    In scenario A: the QB would get credit for a pass attempt, a completion, and 8 yards. The receiver would get credit for a reception, 42 yards with the ball, and a touchdown. It's not the QB's fault he was able to take it 42 yards, so why credit him with it?
    In scenario B: the QB would get credit for a pass attempt, a completion, and 45 passing yards (he was, alas, the gentleman who propelled the ball 45 yards). The WR would get credit for a reception, 5 yards, and a touchdown.
    --
    Running backs (and everybody else) actually need to have the ball to get credit for yardage gained, so why not the same standard for receivers? I also like WR's getting pegged for attempted receptions. If they catch 10 passes, that's great, but what if 15 were thrown to them??
    --
    Also, TD passes are kinda bogus. 9 times out of 10, the receiver has to run into the end zone with the ball. Why is it to the QB's credit if he breaks 17 tackles and scores? If a runningback rushes for a TD, the QB isn't credited with a TD handoff.

  9. Bill M. Says:

    To further emphasize my point, if a WR catches a ball 14 yards downfield and gets tackled immediately, right where he caught it, why is he credited for any yardage? What he did was made a reception, which is a great thing to do, but it is the QB who provided the impetus for the ball to go 14 yards. Sure the receiver worked his way downfield 14 yards to catch the ball, but he went to where the ball was... he didn't take the ball there. He validated the QB's pass, but he didn't gain any yardage. The WR is responsible for catching it, but the QB is responsible for the yardage. The way it is now, there is no statistical difference between a 30 yard pass play with no "RAC" and a screen pass in the backfield in which the receiver is tackled 30 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.

  10. Bill M. Says:

    Much of what I like about sports is imagining how things could be done differently.

  11. Mo Says:

    So if a WR catches a pass behind the line of scrimmage and gets tackled right away he gets a reception and 0 yards. If he beats his man downfield and catches a 45 yard pass but gets tackled right away (by the safety) he gets the same stats? Thats a problem. The WR gets the yardage because he was able to get open and catch the ball. Generally speaking the longer the pass the more the WR has to do to catch it (get open, get to the ball, catch it). The throws are less accurate the further they are and so the WR has to be able to do more to still make the reception.

  12. Bill M. Says:

    I'm SLIGHTLY sympathetic to that reasoning, Mo. Nowadays, commentators allude to "RAC", but it is an unofficial stat. To deal with the problem you mentioned, I propose the unofficial stat called "DOC", which stands for distance of catch.
    I really don't care about a receiver's heroics before the reception is made. I agree there is something to it, but I don't see it as that important that the current system is obviously the only one that makes any sense.
    The reality is that the current system is stupid.
    How about a compromise: Here could be a receiver's stat categories:
    Receptions made
    Receptions attempted
    Distance of catches
    Yards with ball
    Interceptions caused (drops, tips that are intercepted)
    Touchdowns

  13. Bill M. Says:

    BTW, Mo, nice use of extreme circumstances to prove a point. Never mind the merits of my idea. Just come up with an obscure example where the idea is slightly less than perfect.
    Kinda like proving the United States is the best place in the world by comparing it with some 3rd world country in a constant state of oppression and depravity.
    "Yeah, the existing football methods are the best possible because if some guy gets tackled behind the line, that's worse than a long pass with no gain." Come on..... see it for what it is.
    Then again, most sports fans are sufficiently steeped in custom and tradition that any alternative has got to be worse.
    Baseball fans are the kings of that kind of thinking. I suggested that it'd be neat if they tried running in the opposite direction for a given game, and you'd've thought I was out of my mind by the reaction of everybody in earshot.

  14. Mattie Shoes Says:

    I attempted to make my own "fun-meter"... Results:

    +-----------+-----------+------+----------+
    | firstname | lastname | year | fun |
    +-----------+-----------+------+----------+
    | Dan | Marino | 1984 | 291.1917 |
    | Kurt | Warner | 2000 | 281.2445 |
    | Joe | Namath | 1967 | 272.8471 |
    | Lynn | Dickey | 1983 | 270.2208 |
    | Sonny | Jurgensen | 1961 | 268.5909 |
    | Dan | Fouts | 1982 | 268.2348 |
    | Johnny | Unitas | 1960 | 265.8153 |
    | George | Blanda | 1961 | 264.5220 |
    | John | Hadl | 1968 | 263.4860 |
    | Dan | Marino | 1986 | 262.3431 |
    | Dan | Fouts | 1983 | 261.8721 |
    | Kurt | Warner | 2001 | 260.6927 |
    | Peyton | Manning | 2004 | 259.7762 |
    | Dan | Fouts | 1980 | 251.3465 |
    | Babe | Parilli | 1964 | 250.5977 |
    | Warren | Moon | 1990 | 249.7264 |
    | Dan | Fouts | 1981 | 246.3634 |
    | Daryle | Lamonica | 1969 | 245.7605 |
    | Kurt | Warner | 1999 | 241.3103 |
    | Y.A. | Tittle | 1962 | 241.1314 |
    | Daunte | Culpepper | 2004 | 240.3766 |
    | Y.A. | Tittle | 1963 | 239.8225 |
    | Dan | Fouts | 1985 | 238.1234 |
    | Sonny | Jurgensen | 1962 | 236.9357 |
    | Norm | Snead | 1967 | 234.8388 |
    | Steve | Young | 1998 | 234.0381 |
    | George | Blanda | 1962 | 233.4030 |
    | Neil | Lomax | 1984 | 232.5273 |
    | Steve | Beuerlein | 1999 | 231.4232 |
    | Daryle | Lamonica | 1968 | 231.3023 |
    +-----------+-----------+------+----------+

  15. Mattie Shoes Says:

    Doh, no preview or edit! and no pre tags!

    The thing that I didn't like about the formula you used for fun was that dividing by completions. I don't quite know how to phrase it, but it just seems wonky. Interceptions are in the numerator but not the denominator since they don't count as completions. And it ignores how many pass attempts there are per game. 5 exciting passes is good, but 10 is better. Anyway, my own attempt to calculate "fun" was something like this:

    Deep passes are fun.
    More deep passes/game = more fun.
    Deep downfield incompletions are somewhat fun
    The QB throwing away the ball is negative fun

    So I counted half the incompletions as "real" and half as "throwaway". No real reason, it seemed like a good idea at the time. I gave .2*YPC for each "real attempt" and -5 points per "throwaway". interceptions are counted as 100% real attempts... And I calculated the fun number per game rather than per completion. This is all assuming I didn't make some mathematical blunder in the formula, of course.

    #for every "real pass attempt"
    (passyd/comp * (att-((att-comp-interceptions)*.5))*.2
    +

    #for real completions
    passyd*.8
    +
    #for interceptions
    interceptions*25
    +
    #for touchdowns
    passtd*25
    -
    #for throwaways
    5*(att-((att-comp-interceptions)*.5)))

    #for fun per game
    /games

    It seems to have a nice mix of old and new, and I think the results match my definition of fun a bit more... It's really hard for me to tell with the old timers since I never watched any pre-joe-montana football.

    Dan Marino's 48 TD, 5084 yard season tops the list. Warren Moon and his chuck-n-duck offense made the list which made me happy. I loved watching the run and shoot craziness. Peyton's exciting 49 TD season is also in there, as well as George Blanda's record setting 42 interception season...

    Gary Huff's 1975 season chinched the most boring spot, with 114 for 205 with 1083 pass yards, 3 TDs, and 9 INTs in 14 games (a whopping 77 yards/game). That's probably due to my use of "per game" though since it looks like he was sharing time with Bob Avellini.

  16. Jerry Says:

    Seeing Kordell on a "boring" list seems wrong. Maybe you need to add a factor for QB runs; in Stewart's case, it was usually more fun to see him pull the ball down and run than to watch him throw.

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