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All time NFL QBs: The Best Edition
Before the 2006 season, I wrote about the best quarterbacks of all time. With some more data on my hands, I decided to update that post. On Friday I discussed the methodology used, and yesterday, I ranked the worst quarterbacks in league history.
A couple of reminders. One, I ignored all post-season data, at least for now, mostly because it's a complicated issue that's worth separating out for a day. Later on this week, I plan to revisit post-season data. Two, on the list of the greatest QBs ever, I'm including sack data, and rushing yards, and using the league average as my baseline. Occasionally, though, I'll use some other requirements when the rankings change substantially as a result.
What was the greatest season in QB history? It's been almost a quarter-century, but Dan Marino's 1984 season still stands alone. Sure, Marino averaged 8.51 adjusted yards per pass and 8.11 adjusted net yards per pass, but a few other QBs have topped that. What makes Marino's season so amazing was that he kept that pace up for over 564 passes, in an era where the league average QB threw for just 4.61 adjusted net yards per attempt.
Peyton Manning and Tom Brady don't come far behind, with their 2004 and 2007 seasons ranking second and third, respectively. Right behind those years is Otto Graham's 1953 season, an oft forgotten yet incredible season. Graham averaged 9.41 AY/A while the rest of the NFL averaged only 3.40 adjusted yards per attempt. The table below shows the top 50 seasons by all QBs in NFL history. Remember, the second to last category, "RY4.0", shows how many adjusted rushing yards over 4.0 yards per carry that each QB had that season:
year att pyd ptd icp sk-syd any/a RY4.0 Rating Dan Marino 1984 MIA 564 5084 48 17 13-120 8.11 0 2098 Peyton Manning 2004 IND 497 4557 49 10 13-101 8.82 0 1885 Tom Brady 2007 NWE 578 4806 50 8 21-128 8.04 0 1817 Otto Graham 1953 CLE 258 2722 11 9 - 9.41 31 1808 Steve Young 1992 SFO 402 3465 25 7 29-152 7.54 273 1611 Bert Jones 1976 BAL 343 3104 24 9 29-284 7.14 82 1506 Sid Luckman 1943 CHI 202 2194 28 12 - 9.57 0 1499 Kurt Warner 1999 STL 499 4353 41 13 29-201 7.53 10 1490 Steve Young 1994 SFO 461 3969 35 10 31-163 7.53 131 1407 Dan Fouts 1981 SDG 609 4802 33 17 19-134 6.74 0 1399 Peyton Manning 2006 IND 557 4397 31 9 14-86 7.38 0 1396 Daunte Culpepper2004 MIN 548 4717 39 11 46-238 7.36 74 1388 John Brodie 1970 SFO 378 2941 24 10 8-67 6.90 13 1360 Jeff Garcia 2000 SFO 561 4278 31 10 24-155 6.81 166 1354 Milt Plum 1960 CLE 250 2297 21 5 - 9.13 0 1344 George Blanda 1961 HOU 362 3330 36 22 - 7.46 0 1342 Randall Cunning.1998 MIN 425 3704 34 10 20-132 7.78 14 1324 Ken Anderson 1981 CIN 479 3754 29 10 25-140 6.85 146 1318 Len Dawson 1962 DTX 310 2759 29 17 - 7.37 130 1297 Ken Anderson 1975 CIN 377 3169 21 11 32-247 6.45 12 1292 Joe Montana 1989 SFO 386 3521 26 8 33-198 7.69 61 1277 Dan Fouts 1982 SDG 330 2883 17 11 12-94 7.20 0 1275 Joe Montana 1984 SFO 432 3630 28 10 22-138 7.32 0 1267 Steve Young 1993 SFO 462 4023 29 16 31-160 6.96 151 1262 Mark Rypien 1991 WAS 421 3564 28 11 7-59 7.69 0 1257 Drew Brees 2006 NOR 554 4418 26 11 18-105 7.13 0 1248 Steve Young 1998 SFO 517 4170 36 12 48-234 6.65 234 1248 Johnny Unitas 1964 BAL 305 2824 19 6 - 9.00 34 1225 Peyton Manning 2003 IND 566 4267 29 10 18-107 6.85 0 1220 Warren Moon 1990 HOU 584 4689 33 13 36-252 6.75 15 1214 Peyton Manning 2005 IND 453 3747 28 10 17-81 7.44 0 1189 Kurt Warner 2001 STL 546 4830 36 22 38-233 6.79 0 1189 Sammy Baugh 1947 WAS 354 2938 25 15 - 7.10 0 1167 Len Dawson 1966 KAN 284 2527 26 10 - 8.23 71 1164 Bart Starr 1966 GNB 251 2257 14 3 - 9.01 40 1158 Dan Marino 1986 MIA 623 4746 44 23 17-119 6.30 0 1146 Boomer Esiason 1988 CIN 388 3572 28 14 30-245 7.12 86 1144 Roger Staubach 1971 DAL 211 1882 15 4 23-175 7.17 199 1144 Joe Theismann 1983 WAS 459 3714 29 11 34-242 6.63 96 1142 Donovan McNabb 2004 PHI 469 3875 31 8 32-192 7.25 86 1130 Daunte Culpepper2000 MIN 474 3937 33 16 34-181 6.63 184 1115 Peyton Manning 2000 IND 571 4413 33 15 20-131 6.66 0 1111 Neil Lomax 1984 STL 560 4614 28 16 49-377 6.23 74 1105 Roman Gabriel 1973 PHI 460 3219 23 12 31-219 5.48 0 1096 Roger Staubach 1979 DAL 461 3586 27 11 36-240 6.28 24 1091 Ken Anderson 1974 CIN 328 2667 18 10 36-292 5.78 162 1081 NormVanBrocklin 1953 RAM 286 2393 19 14 - 6.83 0 1073 Rich Gannon 2002 OAK 618 4689 26 10 36-214 6.55 0 1072 Steve McNair 2003 TEN 400 3215 24 7 19-108 7.24 26 1059 Steve DeBerg 1990 KAN 444 3444 23 4 22-191 7.09 0 1056
There are a bunch of old seasons on there, outside of Graham's gem in '53. Sid Luckman's terrific 1943 year makes the cut, along with Sammy Baugh's 1947 and Norm Van Brocklin's 1953 performances. A whopping five of Peyton Manning's seasons are in the top 50, along with four of Steve Young's and three of Ken Anderson's, while Roger Staubach, Len Dawson, Dan Fouts, Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Kurt Warner, and Daunte Culpepper each are on there twice. One of those is not like the other. And while only one of Unitas' seasons makes the cut, he does have three other years of over 900 yards above average.
We can also look at the best QB in the NFL for each of say, the last 38 seasons.
Quarterback Year Team ANY/A Rating Tom Brady 2007 NWE 8.04 1817 Peyton Manning 2006 IND 7.38 1396 Peyton Manning 2005 IND 7.44 1189 Peyton Manning 2004 IND 8.82 1885 Peyton Manning 2003 IND 6.85 1220 Rich Gannon 2002 OAK 6.55 1072 Kurt Warner 2001 STL 6.79 1189 Jeff Garcia 2000 SFO 6.81 1354 Kurt Warner 1999 STL 7.53 1490 Randall Cunningham 1998 MIN 7.78 1324 Steve Young 1997 SFO 6.98 904 Brett Favre 1996 GNB 5.94 707 Brett Favre 1995 GNB 6.62 1040 Steve Young 1994 SFO 7.53 1407 Steve Young 1993 SFO 6.96 1262 Steve Young 1992 SFO 7.54 1611 Mark Rypien 1991 WAS 7.69 1257 Warren Moon 1990 HOU 6.75 1214 Joe Montana 1989 SFO 7.69 1277 Boomer Esiason 1988 CIN 7.12 1144 Bernie Kosar 1987 CLE 6.62 863 Dan Marino 1986 MIA 6.30 1146 Ken O'Brien 1985 NYJ 6.14 944 Dan Marino 1984 MIA 8.11 2098 Joe Theismann 1983 WAS 6.63 1142 Dan Fouts 1982 SDG 7.20 1275 Dan Fouts 1981 SDG 6.74 1399 Brian Sipe 1980 CLE 6.21 1056 Roger Staubach 1979 DAL 6.28 1091 Roger Staubach 1978 DAL 5.62 927 Roger Staubach 1977 DAL 5.57 1031 Bert Jones 1976 BAL 7.14 1506 Ken Anderson 1975 CIN 6.45 1292 Ken Anderson 1974 CIN 5.78 1081 Roman Gabriel 1973 PHI 5.48 1096 Joe Namath 1972 NYJ 5.85 741 Roger Staubach 1971 DAL 7.17 1144 John Brodie 1970 SFO 6.90 1360
Manning, Young and Staubach all appear on the list four times, while no other QB has been tops in the league more than twice. Warner, Favre, Marino, Fouts and Ken Anderson were the others to rank as the best regular season QBs in multiple seasons. While the Bengals, Browns, Jets and Redskins each had two separate QBs once lead the league, the San Francisco 49ers had an incredible four different QBs rank as the league's main man.
Okay, enough stalling. How about the all time career list? Who ranks as the top regular season QB in NFL history? There are so many interesting names on this list that I'm going to show the top 75 guys.
att Rating 1 Dan Marino 8358 8593 2 Peyton Manning 5405 7946 3 Steve Young 4149 7739 4 Fran Tarkenton 6467 7140 5 Joe Montana 5391 7006 6 Dan Fouts 5604 6672 7 Johnny Unitas 5186 6211 8 Ken Anderson 4475 5974 9 Roger Staubach 2958 5680 10 Len Dawson 3741 5604 11 Brett Favre 8758 5107 12 Norm Van Brocklin 2895 4688 13 Sonny Jurgensen 4262 4525 14 Otto Graham 1565 4250 15 John Elway 7250 4123 16 Bart Starr 3149 4101 17 Boomer Esiason 5205 4013 18 Kurt Warner 2959 4004 19 Tom Brady 3642 3845 20 Roman Gabriel 4498 3844 21 Warren Moon 6823 3787 22 Trent Green 3668 3694 23 Sid Luckman 1744 3667 24 John Hadl 4687 3634 25 Y.A. Tittle 3817 3632 26 Jim Hart 5076 3610 27 Daryle Lamonica 2601 3519 28 Steve McNair 4544 3515 29 Jeff Garcia 3300 3342 30 Joe Namath 3762 3339 31 Rich Gannon 4206 3331 32 Sammy Baugh 2995 3305 33 Daunte Culpepper 2927 3224 34 Jim Kelly 4779 3009 35 John Brodie 4491 2970 36 Bert Jones 2551 2965 37 Troy Aikman 4715 2919 38 Donovan McNabb 3732 2903 39 Terry Bradshaw 3901 2799 40 Bob Griese 3429 2785 41 Earl Morrall 2689 2723 42 Mark Brunell 4594 2644 43 Billy Kilmer 2984 2571 44 Craig Morton 3786 2558 45 Randall Cunningham 4289 2477 46 Jim Everett 4923 2452 47 Steve Grogan 3593 2407 48 Bobby Layne 3700 2396 49 Ken Stabler 3793 2294 50 Mark Rypien 2613 2285 51 Drew Brees 3015 2236 52 Vinny Testaverde 6701 2169 53 Bernie Kosar 3365 2092 54 Don Meredith 2308 2024 55 Joe Theismann 3602 1992 56 Matt Hasselbeck 3138 1919 57 Charlie Conerly 2833 1900 58 Doug Williams 2507 1892 59 Brad Johnson 4248 1840 60 Phil Simms 4647 1810 61 Greg Landry 2300 1804 62 Milt Plum 2419 1766 63 George Blanda 4007 1726 64 Brian Sipe 3439 1692 65 Carson Palmer 2036 1666 66 Dave Krieg 5311 1663 67 Frank Ryan 2133 1662 68 Bill Nelsen 1905 1660 69 Neil Lomax 3153 1657 70 Steve DeBerg 5024 1595 71 Johnny Lujack 808 1584 72 Joe Ferguson 4519 1503 73 Billy Wade 2523 1501 74 Marc Bulger 2484 1442 75 Doug Flutie 2151 1422
This list seems to coincide well with perception: Outside of Anderson, everyone in the top 16 is in the Hall of Fame, or will be in the HOF. Warren Moon ranks 21st, Sid Luckman 23rd, Y.A. Tittle 25th, Joe Namath 30th, Sammy Baugh 32nd, Jim Kelly 34th, Troy Aikman 38th, Terry Bradshaw 39th, Bob Griese 40th, Bobby Layne 48th, and George Blanda 63rd. And for the most part, a lot of active guys are separating those QBs, especially high on the list. In other words, among those eligible, the HOF has done a pretty good job. And we all know Blanda was more than just a quarterback.
Other thoughts
- There's not much to say about Marino that hasn't already been said. But here's something interesting -- if you ignore sack data, Marino would have came in at ninth on this list, with everyone in the top 10 besides Dan Fouts passing him. Marino added 5,622 yards above average as QB when looking just at AY/A, compared to the 8,593 yards above average when including sack data and using ANY/A. That's interesting to me for two reasons. One, for Marino haters, it's much, much easier than I would have thought to discount his incredible raw statistics, by simply ignoring his ability to avoid sacks. Two, for all the talk about Marino, his ability to avoid sacks rarely seems to come up in conversation. That's unfortunate.
- I was shocked to see Manning so high on the list. But consider, he's already thrown more career passes than Joe Montana. Manning is immune to changes such as using sack data or not, or using the league average or 75% of the league average as the baseline. He's compiled great data for long enough that he still ranks second on all the lists.
- Similar to the Marino comment, what's up with Steve Young? Young's sack numbers are largely similar to the league average, which is surprising for a mobile QB on a great team that relied on the short passing game. Part of the reason, no doubt, is that Young's scrambling (which he's often credited for) led to slightly more sacks than you might recall. He would rank first overall if we exclude sack data (although that's much more due to the fact that Marino and Manning drop once you do that). Of course, even at third on the list some will think this is too high for him, but Young was absolutely dominant both as an individual and as part of a team. He led some incredibly productive offenses and put up some mind blowing statistics. Think of it this way -- as good as Peyton Manning is, before 2007, he had a bunch more career passing attempts but ranked behind Young in career value.
- Fran Tarkenton doesn't get enough love. Nine of his seasons were among the top 200 seasons of all time. And for as long as he played, he wasn't a compiler -- he ranks sixth on the list if you drop the baseline to 75% of league average. Tarkenton got sacked a bunch, and would have ranked second if we excluded that data (which is a good argument for not excluding it. If you want to give him credit for scrambling, you have to punish him for getting sacked.) More than anyone else, his reputation seems to have faded over time, belying how terrific he was.
- What's there to say about Montana ranking #5? Lost in all the Montana debates is how good of a regular season QB he really was. He didn't throw a lot of passes, and he didn't play in an incredible passing era, so his raw career stats are less than impressive. The nice part about this study is that he still ranks as the fifth best QB in history based on regular season data. If you knew nothing about Montana's post-season, his career numbers in the regular season are good enough to rank him as one of the handful of best quarterbacks in league history. I think that's a pretty good endorsement of this system. And for the few Montana bashers out there, note well: two of Montana's best three statistical seasons came before Jerry Rice was drafted.
- I'm going to lump Fouts and Anderson together and get to them in a second. Unitas at #7 on this list is pretty cool. It's nice to adjust for era and then see him so highly ranked. One odd note is that he had two down years at age 28 and 29, the worst two years out of all of Unitas' first twelve seasons. To get a sense of Unitas and his era, here's how he ranked each of his first ten seasons, with the top QB that season also noted:
1956 3 Tobin Rote 1957 1 1958 2 Bobby Layne 1959 1 1960 3 Milt Plum 1961 Below League Average 1962 Below League Average 1963 1 1964 1 1965 2 Rudy Bukich
It's worth noting that from '56 to '59, there were only 12 teams in the league, but those ranks look pretty impressive to me.
- Unlike the other QBs mentioned above, no one really makes an argument for Dan Fouts or Ken Anderson as being the best QB of all time. And there simply isn't a reasonable argument to make. But that doesn't mean they should get ignored as often as I think they do when discussing the all time greats. Those guys never won a Super Bowl, and sure they benefited from the systems they played in, but they were simply outstanding in their primes. Each have two seasons among the league's top 20 QB seasons of all time. Fouts' career doesn't get nearly enough love, and obviously, it's a joke that Ken Anderson isn't in the Hall of Fame.
- Roger Staubach is one of those 'what if' guys. He missed the prime of his career, yet still ranks in the top ten and his rating relative to his number of attempts is off the charts. The argument could be made that Staubach would be considered the greatest QB in league history if he entered the league at age 22. When you put up over 3,000 yards above the league average at ages 35, 36 and 37, you are entitled to the benefit of some doubt.
- The last QB in our top ten is Len Dawson, who beats out Favre for the final spot. Dawson's another guy who got a late start -- his first season as a starter was at age 27. Sure, Favre threw over 5,000 more passes than Dawson, but Dawson made a lot more out of those attempts. Favre gets the longevity award -- he ranks third on the all time list if we drop the baseline to three-fourths of league average. While that might be appropriate if we're deciding who was more valuable over the full length of their careers, that's not as useful when deciding who was really the best. Before the NFL merged, only nine times in history did a QB post a QB Rating of over 98 while having at least 200 attempts, and Dawson (three) was the only one to do it more than once. Favre is overrated by a lot of people, and underrated (as backlash) by just as many, but I think putting him somewhere in the 5-15 range sounds right to me. It's easy to get fooled by either his gaudy career numbers or his few down seasons later on in his career.
- One other guy should at least be considered for the best QB in NFL history -- Otto Graham. I excluded Graham's AAFC stats, but Graham can make the same argument as Staubach, only moreso. He actually ranks even higher than Staubach on a "rating" to "attempts" ratio, and we can only guess how terrific he'd look if he played his whole career in the NFL. Longevity is an issue, but he ranks as the 15th best QB despite playing only six seasons in the NFL. He ranked as the league's top QB in three of those years, and ranked second, third and seventh the other three seasons. And, of course, the Browns went to the NFL title game in each of those six seasons.
Obviously there are lots of other things to comment about, but I'll leave that to you guys. Check back tomorrow for another look at these QBs.
This entry was posted on Tuesday, June 24th, 2008 at 6:21 am and is filed under History, Statgeekery. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. Both comments and pings are currently closed.

its alot easier to put up passing numbers in todays pass happy league! defenders cant breathe on WRs anymore & alot of games are inside,P Manning only plays like 3 or 4 games all year outside! While D Marino was setting all those records he was playing like 1 game all year inside, great QBs perform great in any type of weather! P Manning has never had a good game under bad conditions, jus another reason he shouldnt hold the title of great!!!!
it is set up the last 10 years for QBs & offenses to have great years!if D Marino were playing today hed put records out of reach & win SBs with not much help on offense, all he ever needed was a defense, if he would have had a great defense, he would have titles! thats a fact!!