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AV All-franchise teams: NFC North

Posted by Doug on July 17, 2008

Just for fun, I decided to use my Approximate Value method to come up with a post-merger all-franchise team for each franchise. I’ll post them by division.

Previous Divisions:

NFC West
NFC South
AFC North
AFC East

Here are the rules:

1. The AV systems gives a player a score for each player season. To combine these into a career number, I take 100% of the player’s best season, plus 95% of his second-best season, plus 90% of his third-best season, and so on.

2. I’m only comfortable (for now) applying the AV methodology to post-merger seasons. Players who debuted before the merger, however, are included if their post-merger seasons alone merit inclusion. In this case, they have a ‘+’ after their AV score to remind you that their career AV is (probably) higher than the number shown.

3. To avoid 4-3/3-4 issues, I gave each defense 12 players, including two DT/NTs, two DEs, two OLBs, and two ILB/MLBs.

4. Because of the slippery and changing nature of defining what a fullback is, I simply decided to go with two RB/FBs, instead of an RB and an FB.

As with most things AV-related, this series of posts is mostly just for fun, but I’m also curious to hear feedback from long-time followers of the teams about things that look fishy.

Chicago Bears

QB   Jim Harbaugh          43
QB   Jim McMahon           43
RB   Walter Payton        127
RB   Neal Anderson         60
WR   Curtis Conway         38
WR   James Scott           34
TE   Emery Moorehead       34
T    Keith Van Horne       63
T    Jimbo Covert          58
T    James O. Williams     58
G    Mark Bortz            52
G    Tom Thayer            41
C    Jay Hilgenberg        68 

DT   Steve McMichael       97
DT   Jim Osborne           72
DE   Dan Hampton          104
DE   Richard Dent          95
ILB  Mike Singletary      124
ILB  Brian Urlacher        92
OLB  Lance Briggs          56
OLB  Otis Wilson           54
CB   Donnell Woolford      44
CB   Allan Ellis           40
CB   Terry Schmidt         40
CB   Mike Richardson       40
SS   Gary Fencik           78
FS   Mark A. Carrier       51

Detroit Lions

QB   Greg Landry           70+
RB   Barry Sanders        122
RB   Billy Sims            57
WR   Herman Moore          81
WR   Johnnie Morton        52
WR   Brett Perriman        52
TE   Charlie Sanders       60+
T    Lomas Brown           80
T    Rocky Freitas         66+
G    Bob Kowalkowski       41+
G    Homer Elias           34
C    Kevin Glover          56 

DT   Doug English          71
DT   Luther Elliss         50
DE   Robert Porcher        67
DE   William Gay           50
ILB  Chris Spielman        66
ILB  Ken Fantetti          41
OLB  Paul Naumoff          60+
OLB  Charlie Weaver        55
CB   Lem Barney            66+
CB   James Hunter          41
SS   Mike Weger            29+
FS   Bennie Blades         46

Green Bay Packers

QB   Brett Favre          147
RB   Ahman Green           75
RB   John Brockington      50
WR   James Lofton          78
WR   Sterling Sharpe       67
TE   Paul Coffman          49
T    Ken Ruettgers         55
T    Greg Koch             51
G    Marco Rivera          47
G    Ron Hallstrom         40
C    Frank Winters         52 

DT   Mike McCoy            50
DT   Santana Dotson        41
DE   Reggie White          83
DE   Sweeny Williams       52
ILB  Jim Carter            48
ILB  Brian Noble           45
OLB  Fred Carr             66+
OLB  John Anderson         59
CB   Ken Ellis             59
CB   Willie Buchanon       55
SS   LeRoy Butler          87
FS   Darren Sharper        55

Minnesota Vikings

QB   Daunte Culpepper      80

Tarkenton has 77. Two things: (1) It seems clear that AV overrates running QBs. I need to do something about that, but I'm not sure what. (2) as of 2008, Culpepper seems like a joke. But don't forget that he posted some really unbelievable statistical seasons. I'm not saying I agree with Culpepper over Tarkenton, but remember, AV only looks at the objective record. For all his faults, Culpepper still looks pretty good on that score.

RB   Chuck Foreman         80
RB   Robert Smith          61
WR   Cris Carter           92
WR   Randy Moss            85
TE   Steve Jordan          67
T    Ron Yary             116+
T    Tim Irwin             68
G    Randall McDaniel      97
G    David Dixon           51
C    Matt Birk             54 

DT   Alan Page            120+
DT   John Randle           97
DE   Carl Eller           102+
DE   Chris Doleman         93
ILB  Jeff Siemon           72
ILB  Scott Studwell        69
OLB  Matt Blair            75
OLB  Wally Hilgenberg      67+
CB   Carl Lee              66
CB   Bobby Bryant          66+
SS   Joey Browner          74
FS   Paul Krause           87+