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Senior Candidates, 2011: Al Wistert
Back in February, we discussed profiling Senior nominees for the 2011 Veteran's selections, and solicited input from all of our great readers. I had hoped to start on the profiles after the draft but that did not happen right away. The two finalists are generally announced in late August, so we will be profiling players over the next month or so for consideration. Today, we start with Al Wistert.
Al Wistert is 89 years old and living in Grants Pass, Oregon. For most of the last forty years, he has had very little buzz around his candidacy for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but that has changed over the last few years. Last year, he was inducted into the Philadelphia Eagles Hall of Fame along with Randall Cunningham, and there have been online petitions to get him considered as a senior selection for Canton. So, is this a case of a sentimental selection for a living representative of a bygone era, when football was played both ways by players who rarely left the field? Or is Al Wistert an oversight by the Pro Football Hall of Fame that needs to be corrected by the Senior Selection Committee?
Before I get to that answer, a quick aside. When I was researching Al Wistert, I kept running into confusing references of Al Wistert playing for the Philadelphia Eagles the same year as he was playing for the University of Michigan. As it turns out, there were two Al Wisterts, who were brothers, and who played football at the same time. Actually, three Wistert brothers starred at tackle for the University of Michigan. Francis "Whitey" Wistert (born in 1912) played at Michigan from 1931-1933, and also played baseball and was signed by the Cincinnati Reds. Alvin "Moose" Wistert (born in 1915) did not go to college right away, served in World War II, and played at Michigan after the war, when he was already in his thirties. Albert "Ox" Wistert, the Al Wistert at issue here, was the youngest of the three, but played and starred at Michigan from 1940-1942, before the older Alvin Wistert.
Al Wistert was a natural athlete. He never actually played organized football in high school, and his first game of organized football came when he started for the University of Michigan as a sophomore in 1940 against California.
As an NFL rookie, Wistert was a member of the famous "Steagles" team in 1943, which combined the Pittsburgh and Philadelphia franchises for one season due to the war. The following year, his first officially with the Eagles, Wistert was selected first team all-pro for the first time, and he would go on to be selected by an awarding organization at least once in every remaining year in the decade. Judging by the number of awards each season, he was widely considered the best tackle in the game from 1944 to 1948. Before Wistert arrived in Philadelphia, the franchise had never had a winning record. He was a favorite of coach Greasy Neale and was captain of the team, and played in three consecutive NFL championship games from 1947-1949 as captain.
It's difficult to compare Al Wistert to other candidates for senior selection who played after 1950 because he played a very different game as a two way player, where versatility was far more important. From the accounts I can find, he was considered adept on both sides of the ball in both college and the pros, praised for his technique and variety in offensive blocking, and in his ability to make sure tackles and control his area defensively. Offensively, he blocked in front of Steve Van Buren for one of the best rushing attacks of the era, and defensively, he was part of teams that consistently ranked in the top 3 in both passing and rushing rate stats and recorded shutouts in the 1948 and 1949 championship games. The only way I know to assess Wistert's qualifications for the Hall is to compare him to contemporaries at the same position from the two-way era. During Wistert's time, and in the decade before, numerous awarding organizations named all pro teams, usually between 4 and 7 in a given year. They may have had different criteria, so it gives us a broad view of how players were viewed. From 1930 to 1949 (the unlimited substitution rule went into effect in 1950), 37 different tackles were named to at least one first team all pro team by an awarding organization. Here is a summary of all tackles for this two decade period who were named on at least five distinct first team all pros during this period, with the first column representing the total number of first team selections by different organizations, and the second column representing the total number of discrete seasons in which the player had at least one first team selection.
| First | Last | All Pros | Years as All Pro | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Al | Wistert | 24 | 6 | ||
| Joe | Stydahar | 21 | 5 | ||
| Turk | Edwards | 18 | 8 | ||
| Bruiser | Kinard | 16 | 6 | ||
| Cal | Hubbard | 10 | 3 | ||
| Dick | Huffman | 10 | 3 | ||
| Bill | Morgan | 8 | 2 | ||
| George | Christensen | 7 | 4 | ||
| Baby | Ray | 7 | 4 | ||
| Ed | Widseth | 7 | 2 | ||
| Willie | Wilkin | 7 | 2 | ||
| Al | Blozis | 5 | 1 | ||
| Fred | Davis | 5 | 2 |
Joe Stydahar, Turk Edwards, Bruiser Kinard and Cal Hubbard, the four men who rank immediately below Wistert on this list, are all enshrined in Canton, and are the only four tackles from this era in the Hall of Fame. Wistert compares more than favorably against the other two way tackles from this two decade period, and clearly separates himself from any other tackle not in Canton. Arguably, by this rough measure of looking at awards, he was the most dominant tackle of this twenty year period, and is in any event, the equal of the other Hall of Famers who were honored long ago.
So why is Wistert still not in the Hall? I suspect it is just that he slipped through the cracks, and if the Hall had been in existence when he retired and he was eligible five years later, he would have been in shortly thereafter. The Pro Football Hall of Fame had its inaugural class in 1963, and was still in its infancy when Wistert was honored by the college football hall of fame in 1968 at about the same time the pro football hall of fame added Stydahar, Kinard, and Edwards. Then, the clear choices among the stars of the late 1950's and early 1960's, who played at a time when the game was hitting greater heights in popularity with television playing a greater role, were reaching eligibility, and those older stars who had not made it in were pushed aside by generations that remembered them less and less with each passing year. You would have to be near eighty years old now to have seen Wistert play, so there are few first hand accounts, and certainly no advanced statistics to rely on. Still, using the awards and how he was perceived at the time, it is pretty clear that Wistert is a glaring omission. He seems like the exact kind of player the Senior Committee should be considering as a strong candidate for inclusion.
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Compelling enough case for Wistert when all you have are All-Pro credentials and comparisons with other tackles of that era. Although I'm not a Steagles fan I'd say he's "worthy" of the Hall at some point. Not necessarily this year though. But hopefully soon enough.
Good article. 5 consensus All-Pro selections and 6 overall is impressive. It's too early too tell, but if it comes down to choosing between Wistert and another equally qualified candidate, I'd go with Wistert simply because he's been eligible for longer.
I think it's going to be difficult for anyone to unseat Wistert as the most qualified candidate examined in this series.
I think it'll either be Wistert or Mac Speedie. The only knock on Speedie is that he had a short American pro football career.
Re: #3
I can think of a few who are about equal (Chuck Howley, Johnny Robinson, Mick Tinglehoff...maybe Randy Gradishar and Jerry Kramer), but I'm not sure if there's any that are MORE deserving.
Re: #4
I'll wait until we see a profile on Speedie, because I don't know any more about him than I can find from just looking at his page.
Re: #5
That was really what I meant--that it will be difficult for anyone to appear more deserving, even if they appear equally deserving.
I am keeping something of a scorecard of all of the profiles so that I can rank them compared to one another as we go, and I would not be surprised if I wind up with half a dozen guys tied at the top.
Wistert is one of the most overlooked players not in the Hall of Fame. A few years ago they nominated Marshall Goldberg, who is a contemporary of Wistert, hope next year the voters do the right thing and elect Wistert.
In an era where teams were drafting from Street & Smith's, I'm not sure how much faith to put in All-Pro selections. Wistert may indeed be a glaring omission, or the voters who thought that Stydahar, Kinard, and Edwards belonged in while Wistert didn't could have known exactly what they were doing. All other things being equal, I'm inclined to let the voters' original verdict stand instead of having a bunch of people who know as little about an old-rime player as I do try to correct the record.
For the most part, I agree with that sentiment, Jerry. Good post on your part.
In general I'm not so sure that sportswriters are or were the best equipped to vote for Hall of Famers or All Pro recognition. I think the ones who studied film (quality control) for a living are in a much better position to judge the greatness of football players and what impact they had on the game.
To study a player like Wistert and his contemporaries you can look at All-Pro honors, search through microfilm for old newspaper accounts to get qualitative information (if any exists), or talk to people who are old enough to remember what specific contributions were made during that era, etc. But the best evidence to be found would be on game films. Yet Wistert played during the time when Paul Brown began pioneering the use of game films to break down opponents (considered an innovation at that time), so intelligence gathering was fairly new during that era. So that leaves players and coaches who can give first-hand accounts of players like Wistert, but based more on memories of games being played and not so much from routine film viewing.
Again, looking at All-Pro honors, Wistert certainly deserves consideration for the Hall. If he's not deemed worthy of enshrinement I'd like to hear the reasons why. Rather than trust the previous selectors from the seniors committee I'd prefer some explanation that would shed some light on Wistert and others passed over by the Hall from that era.
To not include Wistert in the Hall would be a grave disservice. Hopefully, the voters will get around to inducting him as a Senior member while he's still with us.
Eh, I have no idea if he deserves it or not, but I hope people don't just blindly hop on the bandwagon, either. If there's anyone who loves to scout old time video, we could really use some input right about now.
Andy Piascik made a very strong case for Speedie in the book about the 1946-55 Browns, "The Best Show in Football". It should still be in a Barnes & Noble near you. If you read the "Jet Age Passing Attack" chapter and still do not think Speedie belongs in the PFHOF, I would be surprised by that.
Francis "Bucko" Kilroy's career spanned over 64 NFL seasons and consideration should be given for his entire contribution to the NFL as a player for 13 years with the Philadelphia Eagles 1943-1955. As well as his major contributions as an executive with the New England Patriots (36 years - conributing to all 5 super bowls).
It's a shame there's very little "film footage" from back in his day, research will bear out his nomination and "complete" contribution to the league. He belongs in Canton, OH. He was the NFL's walking encyclopedia according to John Madden.
I hope he gets in. Players like him almost always get overlooked because his role is not highlighted. I really believe that a player that can play both offensive and defensive line should really be looked at and considered.
Nice article.
Definitely an ideal canidate.
One I have heard of before when I did some research on great linemen of the past.
He was noted in the 75th Annversary Book.
The NFL HoF also lists him as a Tackle on the 1940s All Decade Team
I know Al he played alonside my grandfather in Philly 1947-1949 . He deserves to be in the hall of fame. The fact that he is not is a shame . No ex player is as good hearted and kind of a person to fans and everyone else. He has always been a perfect example of a hof player on and off the field. Also a quick note of interest: Al Wistert coached a high school team to the state championship in 1948 while playing with the Eagles . Who dedicates that much of themselves ? I don't know anyone who is in the HOF that did or would have. If he is elected to the HOF I would sell a kidney to make sure I had the money to be there to see him inducted!!!!!
Jerry said in #8 above: "In an era where teams were drafting from Street & Smith's, I'm not sure how much faith to put in All-Pro selections. Wistert may indeed be a glaring omission, or the voters who thought that Stydahar, Kinard, and Edwards belonged in while Wistert didn't could have known exactly what they were doing. All other things being equal, I'm inclined to let the voters' original verdict stand instead of having a bunch of people who know as little about an old-rime player as I do try to correct the record."
I don't agree with this. All-Pro teams can certainly tell what knowledgeable contemporaries thought of the player at the time. And given how forgetful the HoF voters have been about any number of seemingly HoF-worthy players (Mick Tingelhoff, Verne Lewellen, Lavvie Dilweg, Riley Matheson, Lemar Parrish, Chuck Howley, Maxie Baughan, Joe Fortunato, Del Shofner, Billy Howton, Billy Wilson, Jimmy Patton, Jack Butler, Abe Woodson, Robert Brazile, Bobby Dillon, Harold Jackson, Harold Carmichael, Drew Pearson, Cliff Branch) who are now Seniors and have never been finalists, it's hard not to see Wistert as yet another oversight. There's plenty of precedent here.
And I always thought the Seniors committee's whole point was to "correct the record."