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Playoff possibilities in the AFC
Here are the updated SRS standings through the afternoon games on Sunday:
| Team | Gms | MOV | SOS | SRS | W | L | Div |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pittsburgh Steelers | 7 | 7.4 | 2.5 | 9.9 | 5 | 2 | AFC North |
| Tennessee Titans | 8 | 8.6 | 0.9 | 9.5 | 5 | 3 | AFC South |
| Indianapolis Colts | 8 | 6.9 | -0.3 | 6.6 | 5 | 3 | AFC South |
| New York Jets | 8 | 6.2 | -0.1 | 6.1 | 6 | 2 | AFC East |
| Green Bay Packers | 8 | 5.8 | 0.0 | 5.7 | 5 | 3 | NFC North |
| Baltimore Ravens | 8 | 4.8 | 0.5 | 5.3 | 6 | 2 | AFC North |
| New York Giants | 8 | 6.3 | -1.1 | 5.2 | 6 | 2 | NFC East |
| Atlanta Falcons | 8 | 5.4 | -0.4 | 5.0 | 6 | 2 | NFC South |
| Philadelphia Eagles | 8 | 2.3 | 2.0 | 4.3 | 5 | 3 | NFC East |
| New England Patriots | 8 | 3.9 | 0.3 | 4.2 | 6 | 2 | AFC East |
| Kansas City Chiefs | 8 | 4.6 | -1.0 | 3.6 | 5 | 3 | AFC West |
| San Diego Chargers | 9 | 4.0 | -0.7 | 3.3 | 4 | 5 | AFC West |
| Detroit Lions | 8 | -0.1 | 1.8 | 1.7 | 2 | 6 | NFC North |
| Cleveland Browns | 8 | -1.1 | 2.8 | 1.7 | 3 | 5 | AFC North |
| New Orleans Saints | 9 | 5.1 | -3.5 | 1.6 | 6 | 3 | NFC South |
| Oakland Raiders | 9 | 3.3 | -1.8 | 1.5 | 5 | 4 | AFC West |
| Chicago Bears | 8 | 2.4 | -2.7 | -0.3 | 5 | 3 | NFC North |
| Washington Redskins | 8 | -1.5 | 1.0 | -0.5 | 4 | 4 | NFC East |
| Miami Dolphins | 8 | -3.1 | 2.3 | -0.8 | 4 | 4 | AFC East |
| Houston Texans | 8 | -3.8 | 2.7 | -1.2 | 4 | 4 | AFC South |
| Cincinnati Bengals | 7 | -1.9 | -0.4 | -2.3 | 2 | 5 | AFC North |
| Minnesota Vikings | 8 | -3.0 | 0.7 | -2.3 | 3 | 5 | NFC North |
| St. Louis Rams | 8 | -0.6 | -3.3 | -3.9 | 4 | 4 | NFC West |
| Tampa Bay Buccaneers | 8 | -3.6 | -1.1 | -4.7 | 5 | 3 | NFC South |
| Dallas Cowboys | 7 | -5.7 | 0.7 | -5.0 | 1 | 6 | NFC East |
| Jacksonville Jaguars | 8 | -6.6 | 0.9 | -5.7 | 4 | 4 | AFC South |
| San Francisco 49ers | 8 | -5.0 | -1.3 | -6.3 | 2 | 6 | NFC West |
| Denver Broncos | 8 | -7.8 | 1.3 | -6.5 | 2 | 6 | AFC West |
| Seattle Seahawks | 8 | -4.9 | -1.8 | -6.7 | 4 | 4 | NFC West |
| Arizona Cardinals | 8 | -6.9 | -0.8 | -7.7 | 3 | 5 | NFC West |
| Buffalo Bills | 8 | -10.6 | 2.2 | -8.3 | 0 | 8 | AFC East |
| Carolina Panthers | 8 | -12.3 | -1.1 | -13.4 | 1 | 7 | NFC South |
And how the divisions look, according to the standings:
| Team | Gms | MOV | SOS | SRS | W | L | Div | GB |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| New York Jets | 8 | 6.2 | -0.1 | 6.1 | 6 | 2 | AFC East | -- |
| New England Patriots | 8 | 3.9 | 0.3 | 4.2 | 6 | 2 | AFC East | -- |
| Miami Dolphins | 8 | -3.1 | 2.3 | -0.8 | 4 | 4 | AFC East | 2 |
| Buffalo Bills | 8 | -10.6 | 2.2 | -8.3 | 0 | 8 | AFC East | 6 |
| Team | Gms | MOV | SOS | SRS | W | L | Div | GB |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Baltimore Ravens | 8 | 4.8 | 0.5 | 5.3 | 6 | 2 | AFC North | -- |
| Pittsburgh Steelers | 7 | 7.4 | 2.5 | 9.9 | 5 | 2 | AFC North | 0.5 |
| Cleveland Browns | 8 | -1.1 | 2.8 | 1.7 | 3 | 5 | AFC North | 3 |
| Cincinnati Bengals | 7 | -1.9 | -0.4 | -2.3 | 2 | 5 | AFC North | 3.5 |
| Team | Gms | MOV | SOS | SRS | W | L | Div | GB |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tennessee Titans | 8 | 8.6 | 0.9 | 9.5 | 5 | 3 | AFC South | -- |
| Indianapolis Colts | 8 | 6.9 | -0.3 | 6.6 | 5 | 3 | AFC South | -- |
| Houston Texans | 8 | -3.8 | 2.7 | -1.2 | 4 | 4 | AFC South | 1 |
| Jacksonville Jaguars | 8 | -6.6 | 0.9 | -5.7 | 4 | 4 | AFC South | 1 |
| Team | Gms | MOV | SOS | SRS | W | L | Div | GB |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kansas City Chiefs | 8 | 4.6 | -1.0 | 3.6 | 5 | 3 | AFC West | -- |
| Oakland Raiders | 9 | 3.3 | -1.8 | 1.5 | 5 | 4 | AFC West | 0.5 |
| San Diego Chargers | 9 | 4.0 | -0.7 | 3.3 | 4 | 5 | AFC West | 1.5 |
| Denver Broncos | 8 | -7.8 | 1.3 | -6.5 | 2 | 6 | AFC West | 3 |
And the AFC standings/wildcard standings. Note that Pittsburgh travels to Cincinnati for Monday Night Football before week 9 can be put in the books:
| Team | Gms | MOV | SOS | SRS | W | L | Div | GB |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Baltimore Ravens | 8 | 4.8 | 0.5 | 5.3 | 6 | 2 | AFC North | DW |
| New York Jets | 8 | 6.2 | -0.1 | 6.1 | 6 | 2 | AFC East | DW |
| Tennessee Titans | 8 | 8.6 | 0.9 | 9.5 | 5 | 3 | AFC South | DW |
| Kansas City Chiefs | 8 | 4.6 | -1.0 | 3.6 | 5 | 3 | AFC West | DW |
| New England Patriots | 8 | 3.9 | 0.3 | 4.2 | 6 | 2 | AFC East | WC |
| Pittsburgh Steelers | 7 | 7.4 | 2.5 | 9.9 | 5 | 2 | AFC North | WC |
| Indianapolis Colts | 8 | 6.9 | -0.3 | 6.6 | 5 | 3 | AFC South | 0.5 |
| Oakland Raiders | 9 | 3.3 | -1.8 | 1.5 | 5 | 4 | AFC West | 1 |
| Miami Dolphins | 8 | -3.1 | 2.3 | -0.8 | 4 | 4 | AFC East | 1.5 |
| Houston Texans | 8 | -3.8 | 2.7 | -1.2 | 4 | 4 | AFC South | 1.5 |
| Jacksonville Jaguars | 8 | -6.6 | 0.9 | -5.7 | 4 | 4 | AFC South | 1.5 |
| San Diego Chargers | 9 | 4.0 | -0.7 | 3.3 | 4 | 5 | AFC West | 2 |
| Cleveland Browns | 8 | -1.1 | 2.8 | 1.7 | 3 | 5 | AFC North | 2.5 |
| Cincinnati Bengals | 7 | -1.9 | -0.4 | -2.3 | 2 | 5 | AFC North | 3 |
| Denver Broncos | 8 | -7.8 | 1.3 | -6.5 | 2 | 6 | AFC West | 3.5 |
| Buffalo Bills | 8 | -10.6 | 2.2 | -8.3 | 0 | 8 | AFC East | 5.5 |
The A.F.C is shaping up to have a fascinating finish. For a moment, let's put aside the 4-loss teams from Oakland, Miami and Houston. The Jets, Patriots, Ravens, Steelers, Colts and Titans are battling for, at most, five playoff spots. The Jets and Colts were in the A.F.C title game last season; the Steelers and Colts were the last two A.F.C. teams to win the Super Bowl; the Jets and Ravens were trendy Super Bowl picks entering the season; the Patriots and Colts have been the two dominant teams of the past decade. And the Titans have the league's most explosive player, in addition to the most dominant receiver of the last decade and the most dominant college player in recent history. Oh, and they were held the league's best record as recently as two seasons ago. One of these six powerhouses are seeing their season end after 16 games. Maybe even two. So which will it be?
Over the last eight weeks, these six teams play each other seven times. In week 10, New England goes to Pittsburgh. The following week the Colts travel to Foxboro. Two weeks after that, two divisions may be decided as the Pats host the Jets and the Steelers travel to Baltimore. Three days after that, in a Thursday night special, the Colts travel to Tennessee. On December 19th, the Jets head to Pittsburgh. And on the last Sunday of the season, the Titans head to Lucas Oil.
On paper, the big winner there is Baltimore, who only has one game against the rest of the other six, and none on the road. The Colts are the biggest losers, with three such games and two on the road. The Titans have one at home and one on the road; the Jets play only two games but both are on the road; the Steelers and Pats play three but two are at home.
With all of these teams already having two or three losses and a bunch of tough games left, I don't think we'll see another situation where an 11-win team misses out. In fact, it's plausible that the Titans could be 10-5 entering the final week against the Colts, and a win gets them a bye and a loss knocks them out of the playoffs. At this point, I think a 10-win team will miss out on the playoffs in the conference.
How do the strength of schedules look for these six? Here's the average SRS ratings, adjusted for game location, of each of these six teams' final eight opponents:
Team SOS New England Patriots 2.6 Indianapolis Colts 1.1 Tennessee Titans 0.9 New York Jets 0.4 Baltimore Ravens -0.4 Pittsburgh Steelers -1.4
In addition to three games against other Big Six teams, the Pats also have to go to Detroit and Chicago (in December) and face the Packers. Outside of a game against the Bills, there are no gimmes left on New England's schedule. The Steelers? They get the Panthers at home (-16.3) bringing down their average; still, Pittsburgh should fatten their record when they travel to Buffalo and in a home game against Cincinnati.
At this point, it's too difficult to handicap these races with so many key tiebreakers undecided. That said, what happened in week one may decide who plays in week 18. In their respective openers, the Ravens beat the Jets and the Steelers topped the Titans. New England holds a tiebreaker over the Ravens, but needs to avoid a sweep against the Jets. On the other side, the Ravens are halfway towards a sweep of the Steelers with the rematch coming in Baltimore. The luckiest team here? The Colts. They haven't played any of the other five teams yet, and were fortunate enough to have the A.F.C. South line up against the West division. Even better, they got a break because the Bengals, and not the Steelers or Ravens, come to Indianapolis by virtue of Cincinnati winning the North in 2009.
The SRS likes the Patriots the least, and they face the toughest schedule. The Titans already have that crucial third loss, are capable of losing to the Broncos, and have to figure out how to make Randy Moss happy. The Jets and Ravens appear in good shape but have inconsistent offenses that combined for 10 points in ugly losses to the Bengals and Packers. Pittsburgh has fallen on hard times the past two weeks: they were beneficiaries of a huge break to beat Miami and then lost to the Saints. Indianapolis is caught in a race to the bottom with the Chargers to see which quarterback can win the M.V.P. by sacrificing one receiver each week. At this point, injuries and attrition are as likely to decide the fates of these six teams as anything else.
The A.F.C. West
Unless several teams in the other three divisions implode, the West is only sending one team to the playoffs. With a win over the Raiders today, the Chiefs would have had a stranglehold on the division. Instead? Chaos, chaos and chaos. And the Broncos. Stop me if you've heard this one: the Chargers shot themselves in the foot a dozen time early in the season, and were written off, and then won the division. Believe it or not, San Diego is only 1.5 games out of first place right now, and the Raiders are tied in the loss column with the Chiefs. This division is wide open because only four of the 12 division games have been played so far. The Raiders are 3-0 in the division. Let that sink in. They obliterated the Broncos and escaped tight games against the two division heavies. The only other division game occurred back in week 1, when the Chiefs topped the Chargers. San Diego's therefore 0-2 in the division, but can make up a lot of ground. If San Diego wins rematches against Oakland and Kansas City -- both of which are at home -- they'll need to make up only one game out of the remaining seven against each team to steal the division. A 7-1 finish will all but guarantee a division title, and a 6-2 finish with the right combination of wins could make them 9-7 and division champs.
The Raiders have the toughest remaining schedule, with an average SRS of +1.9; the Chiefs and Chargers both have easy schedules with the average opponent grading out as a couple points below average. Oakland's tough schedule includes trips to Pittsburgh, Kansas City and San Diego, along with having to battle the Colts. The Chiefs and Chargers both have two games left against Denver, while San Diego gets the 49ers and the Chiefs face the Cardinals. Of course, in San Diego's case, the question is rarely which opponent shows up but rather which San Diego does.
Kansas City doesn't have many pitfalls left -- even (for the sake of argument) assuming losses to the Titans and Chargers, games against St. Louis, Denver (x2) and Arizona are the ones that good teams win. A win at home against the Raiders would bring them to double digits if they can take care of business in their easy games. Let's say the Chiefs run the table outside of games against Tennessee and San Diego, while the Chargers win out save for a game against the Colts. That puts both teams at 10-6 -- who gets in? The two teams would have split H2H and share 4-2 division records. In that case, the Chargers would get in with the better record in common games. All division teams play 14 games in common, except for the one-off games against the other two divisions in the conference outside of your own division and the division against which you play the full slate. The Chiefs swept those games against Buffalo and Cleveland, while the Chargers lost to the Patriots (and we assume beat the Bengals). That would give San Diego the H2H tiebreaker over Kansas City assuming they win the rest of their division games and lose one fewer game than Kansas City the rest of the way. And Vincent Jackson will come back just in time for the Nov. 28th matchup against the Colts. San Diego's next four games include three in the division: if they can sweep those, they'll become the instant favorites. That's a lot to ask for, though, so at this point the smart money is still (barely) on the Chiefs.
Any wildcard hope?
The Dolphins, Texans and Raiders have four losses. Can any of them end the year 11-5 or 10-6 and crash the playoff party? Houston's schedule is just brutal (+2.8 average SRS), which is likely more curse than blessing. Sure, they still have a series with the Titans so they can capture the division, but they'll take too many body blows in games against the Jets, Ravens and Eagles. Ditto the Raiders, whose best hope thanks to that difficult schedule is to sweep the Chiefs and Raiders. Miami can still salvage spits against the Jets and Pats, but already lose on tiebreakers to Pittsburgh and Baltimore. The Dolphins have home games against Buffalo, Chicago, Cleveland and Detroit left on their schedule. If -- and it's a big if -- they can manage to go 2-0 against the Jets and Patriots, they may only need a split against the Titans and Raiders to go 11-5 and win the division. A lot has to go their way, and they don't have great tiebreaker scenarios, but they're not dead yet. Just on life support.
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Really? I assume you are talking about Vince Young. I don't follow college football closely, and haven't paid attention to any comparisons, but I would have guessed that Reggie Bush would be considered the most dominant college player over the past 8-10 years.
I don't want to sidetrack the post, but I'd say Young was more dominant than Bush. Of course, some would say Bush wasn't even a college player.
But Young, Bush, Tebow and a few others were certainly on another level. We can put them all on Tier 1, IMO.
It's obvious you don't follow CFB closely.
Bush=great
Young=greater
Like the Jeffersons, the Raiders are movin' on up! Imagine another Raiders-Bucs Super Bowl.
Maybe not too far fetched, as I think the Chiefs are vulnerable to reality kicking in sooner or later.
Can't help but wondering if Bears-Bills game was one of the first games in which both teams scored 3 TDs, 0 FGs, and 0 safeties, yet neither team finished with 21 points. Anybody have any insight on that?
Larry Fitzgerald was the most DOMINANT college player in the last decade. And it isn't even close. Go back and look at the tape. Because QBs touch the ball the most, you probably will all disagree. Dominant = cannot be stopped. Period. (I do see the redundancy in typing a "." then following with the word "period", but it is the only way to clearly communicate the emphasis on that particular punctuation mark. An "!" would might work, but people would think I am yelling, which I am not.)
Anyway, here is the list: (Colon. Haha.)
1. Larry Fitzgerald
2. Tim Tebow
3. Vince Young
4. Terrell Suggs
5. Bryant Mckinnie
Honorable Mention: Ndamukong Suh, Michael Vick, Reggie Bush, Glenn Dorsey, Adrian Peterson, Colt McCoy.
FWIW, this website: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/291064-the-50-greatest-college-football-players-of-the-last-50-years#page/48 ranked Vince Young #1 of the last 50 years. Bush was only 33rd.
If the Titans make the playoffs and travel to New England, does Randy Moss become the first player in NFL history to play in the same stadium with 3 different teams in the same season? I'm pretty sure the answer is yes.
Larry Fitzgerald was not the most dominant player in CFB. That honor clearly goes to Vince Young. I'm not sure how anyone can say Fitzgerald was the most dominant...
I don't think Tim Tebow was the most dominant player on his team - I leave that honor to Percy Harvin. Just look at how Tebow's production diminished after Harvin left. Harvin made the UF offense fantastic.
Matt,
Vince Young had the most dominant GAME ever. People have a revisionist history when it comes to Young. He was undoubtedly a great player, but look at the whole body of work. He was a good runner, but Young's passing numbers were pedestrian at best. I don't want to turn this into an argument of Young v. Tebow, but compare the numbers for perspective (and don't try to argue intangibles, that's just silly.)
Young v. Tebow Passing:
Pct.- 61.8 v. 66.4
YDS- 6040 v. 9285
Y/ATT- 8.4 v. 9.3
TD- 44 v. 88
INT- 28 v. 16
Rating- 144.9 v.
Young v. Tebow Rushing:
Yds.- 3127 v. 2947
Avg.- 6.8 v. 4.3
TD- 37 v. 57
Total TD- 81 to 145. (WOW! I've never seen those numbers side by side before. Simply astonishing.)
In fact, after going back to look at the numbers, Young might be ranked a little too high. His athleticism is what qualified him among the "dominant." But his overall production was merely "pretty great."
And as far as Tebow's production "diminishing" because of the loss of Percy, that is an exaggeration. Yes, he had 7 less total TD's, and his rating dropped 8 points. Not a big deal. His completion pct, and both rushing and passing yards increased. A fair assessment would be to say his numbers dipped slightly.
Fitzgerald v. Young- Forget it. Fitzgerald is head and shoulders above any WR in the last 20 years (best ever?), and Vince Young is barely among the top 5 QBs of the last 20 years
(Tebow, McCoy, Leirnart (gross), Manning, Frazier, Wuerfell to name a few)
Richie: That list has flawed. Vince Young was not better than Herschel Walker, Tebow, Frazier, Bo Jackson or Doesett. Not even close. Again, 1 game blew Young's legend out of proportion. And Michael Crabtree ahead of Randy Moss and Larry Fitzgerald? No thanks.
Roby,
Like I said, I really don't follow college football, so my opinion is nearly worthless. But I think my perception is similar to yours. I don't remember hearing a ton about Vince Young until Texas beat USC. Reggie Bush was hyped like crazy that year (he did win the Heisman, after all). Once Texas beat USC, Young seemed to jump quite a bit in his perception. I believe USC was favored by over a touchdown in that game. Should the team with the most dominant QB of the decade really be a 7.5-point dog?
Again, I don't really know. I just think there has been revisionist history AFTER Texas won the championship.
(I realize Bush returned the Heisman and was caught cheating, but his cheating didn't have anything to do with his on-field performance.)
Clearly my attempt to avoid a hijack has failed, so:
1) Texas was wire to wire #2 that season.
2) Texas shouldn't have been such a big dog in that game; they ended the year with a slightly better SRS score than USC.
3) In 2005, Young ranked fourth in AY/A and was an absurd runner. He helped Texas lead the nation with over 50 points per game.
4) Tebow had slightly better passing numbers, and more rushing touchdowns, but he was a much different rushing threat than Young. And it's hard to get that performance against Alabama (Part II) out of my head. Young had perhaps the two most dominant Rose Bowl performances.
My point is that Tebow had much better cast around him.
Young had a freshman in Charles and Limas Sweed and David Thomas were his leading receivers.
The fact that Ndamukong Suh is only mentioned in passing as a honorable mention in a list of the most dominant college players in the last decade just confirms that defensive players are viewed as nothin more than third-class citizens by most people.
Punctuated by him not being ranked in a post which defines as not being able to be stopped...