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Checkdowns: Biggest turnarounds
The Patriots beat the Jets 45-3 on a Monday Night massacre in Foxboro just six weeks ago. Sixty-one times in league history has a team lost by 30+ points and then later beat that same opponent in a rematch that season. It's only happened 12 times, though, where the first defeat came by 40 or more points. The full list of 61, below:
| year | Team | Opp | Game 1 | Diff | Game 2 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 | KAN | DEN | 44-13 (Dec. 6) | 31 | 44-24 (Jan. 3) |
| 2009 | TAM | NOR | 38-7 (Nov. 22) | 31 | 20-17 (Dec. 27) |
| 2008 | CHI | GNB | 37-3 (Nov. 16) | 34 | 20-17 (Dec. 22) |
| 2007 | BAL | PIT | 38-7 (Nov. 5) | 31 | 27-21 (Dec. 30) |
| 2005 | WAS | NYG | 36-0 (Oct. 30) | 36 | 35-20 (Dec. 24) |
| 2003 | NWE | BUF | 31-0 (Sep. 7) | 31 | 31-0 (Dec. 27) |
| 2002 | NYJ | NWE | 44-7 (Sep. 15) | 37 | 30-17 (Dec. 22) |
| 2000 | SDG | KAN | 42-10 (Sep. 17) | 32 | 17-16 (Nov. 26) |
28 Comments | Posted in General
Site Features: Two Play Index Additions
A quick note on two features Sean recently added to the Pro-Football Reference Play Index:
- Team & Opponent 2nd-half scores added to Team Game Finder - In the past, we just listed 1st-half and final point totals for games, making it impossible to answer questions like, "Which team scored the most points in a game where they were held scoreless in the second half?" But now that Sean added "Second Half Score" to the criteria, you can find the answer:
Points Score by quarter Score by half Rk Tm Year Date Opp W# G# Day Result OT PF PA PD Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 OQ1 OQ2 OQ3 OQ4 H1 H2 OH1 OH2 1 CHI 2006 2006-10-29 SFO 8 7 Sun W 41-10 41 10 31 24 17 0 0 0 0 0 10 41 0 0 10 2 CIN 1983 1983-11-20 HOU 12 12 Sun W 38-10 38 10 28 17 21 0 0 3 0 0 7 38 0 3 7 3 CRD 1950 1950-10-22 @ WAS 5 5 Sun W 38-28 38 28 10 10 28 0 0 7 7 7 7 38 0 14 14 4 PIT 1973 1973-10-07 SDG 4 4 Sun W 38-21 38 21 17 17 21 0 0 0 0 0 21 38 0 0 21 5 CHI 1971 1971-10-10 NOR 4 4 Sun W 35-14 35 14 21 7 28 0 0 0 7 0 7 35 0 7 7 6 CHI 1980 1980-11-09 WAS 10 10 Sun W 35-21 35 21 14 21 14 0 0 0 0 14 7 35 0 0 21 7 CHI 1987 1987-10-04 @ PHI 3 3 Sun W 35-3 35 3 32 7 28 0 0 0 3 0 0 35 0 3 0 8 NOR 1980 1980-12-07 @ SFO 14 14 Sun L 35-38 OT 35 38 -3 14 21 0 0 0 7 14 14 35 0 7 28 9 NYG 1985 1985-12-08 @ HOU 14 14 Sun W 35-14 35 14 21 14 21 0 0 0 14 0 0 35 0 14 0 10 NYJ 1985 1985-11-03 @ IND 9 9 Sun W 35-17 35 17 18 14 21 0 0 0 3 7 7 35 0 3 14 11 PIT 1990 1990-12-23 CLE 16 15 Sun W 35-0 35 0 35 21 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 35 0 0 0 12 SDG 1979 1979-12-09 @ NOR 15 15 Sun W 35-0 35 0 35 14 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 35 0 0 0 13 SDG 2007 2007-10-28 HOU 8 7 Sun W 35-10 35 10 25 14 21 0 0 0 3 0 7 35 0 3 7 14 SEA 2003 2003-11-16 DET 11 10 Sun W 35-14 35 14 21 14 21 0 0 7 7 0 0 35 0 14 0 15 SFO 2008 2008-11-16 STL 11 10 Sun W 35-16 35 16 19 7 28 0 0 0 3 6 7 35 0 3 13 16 NYG 1945 1945-10-07 @ PIT 1 1 Sun W 34-6 34 6 28 6 28 0 0 0 6 0 0 34 0 6 0 17 RAM 1972 1972-09-17 NOR 1 1 Sun W 34-14 34 14 20 13 21 0 0 0 7 0 7 34 0 7 7 18 SEA 1977 1977-12-11 @ KAN 13 13 Sun W 34-31 34 31 3 14 20 0 0 21 0 3 7 34 0 21 10 - Total Offense added to Player Season & Game Finders - We have always featured yards from scrimmage (rushing yards + receiving yards) in the PI finders, but that category doesn't help us rank the performances of QBs who pass and run. Enter Total Offense, which equals Rushing Yards + Passing Yards - Sack Yards. Here are the single-game leaders (1960-2010):
Passing Rushing Total Yds Rk Player Age Date Lg Tm Opp Result G# W# Day Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD TotOff 1 Warren Moon* 34-028 1990-12-16 NFL HOU @ KAN W 27-10 14 15 Sun 27 45 527 3 0 4 2 0 529 2 Boomer Esiason 35-207 1996-11-10 NFL ARI @ WAS W 37-34 10 11 Sun 35 59 522 3 4 3 1 0 523 3 Dan Marino* 27-038 1988-10-23 NFL MIA NYJ L 30-44 8 8 Sun 35 60 521 3 5 1 0 0 521 4 Phil Simms 30-344 1985-10-13 NFL NYG @ CIN L 30-35 6 6 Sun 40 62 513 1 2 2 5 0 518 5 Vince Ferragamo 28-246 1982-12-26 NFL RAM CHI L 26-34 8 8 Sun 30 46 509 3 2 1 2 0 511 6 Drew Brees 27-308 2006-11-19 NFL NOR CIN L 16-31 10 11 Sun 37 52 510 2 3 0 0 0 510 7 Elvis Grbac 30-084 2000-11-05 NFL KAN @ OAK L 31-49 9 10 Sun 39 53 504 2 2 1 3 1 507 8 Y.A. Tittle* 36-004 1962-10-28 NFL NYG WAS W 49-34 7 7 Sun 27 39 505 7 0 1 1 0 506 9 Jake Plummer 29-317 2004-10-31 NFL DEN ATL L 28-41 8 8 Sun 31 55 499 4 3 2 5 0 504 10 Doug Williams 25-099 1980-11-16 NFL TAM @ MIN L 30-38 11 11 Sun 30 55 486 4 2 2 13 0 499 11 Steve Young* 30-338 1992-09-13 NFL SFO BUF L 31-34 2 2 Sun 26 37 449 3 1 7 50 0 499 12 Tommy Kramer 31-240 1986-11-02 NFL MIN @ WAS L 38-44 9 9 Sun 20 35 490 4 1 3 8 0 498 13 Joe Namath* 29-116 1972-09-24 NFL NYJ @ BAL W 44-34 2 2 Sun 15 28 496 6 1 1 1 0 497 14 Billy Volek 28-235 2004-12-19 NFL TEN @ OAK L 35-40 14 15 Sun 40 60 492 4 1 1 1 1 493 15 Matt Hasselbeck 27-095 2002-12-29 NFL SEA @ SDG W 31-28 16 17 Sun 36 53 449 2 2 7 42 1 491 16 Boomer Esiason 29-173 1990-10-07 NFL CIN @ RAM W 34-31 5 5 Sun 31 45 490 3 0 2 0 0 490 17 Ken O'Brien 25-298 1986-09-21 NFL NYJ MIA W 51-45 3 3 Sun 29 43 479 4 1 1 8 0 487 18 Neil Lomax 25-303 1984-12-16 NFL STL @ WAS L 27-29 16 16 Sun 37 46 468 2 1 3 18 1 486 19 Don Meredith 25-214 1963-11-10 NFL DAL @ SFO L 24-31 9 9 Sun 30 48 460 3 1 3 24 0 484 20 Kurt Warner 36-156 2007-11-25 NFL ARI SFO L 31-37 11 12 Sun 34 48 484 2 2 0 0 0 484 And the single-season leaders:
Games Passing Rushing Total Yds Rk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Sk SkYds Att Yds TD TotOff 1 Drew Brees 2008 29 2-32 NOR NFL 16 413 635 5069 34 17 13 92 22 -1 0 4976 2 Dan Marino* 1984 23 1-27 MIA NFL 16 362 564 5084 48 17 13 120 28 -7 0 4957 3 Daunte Culpepper 2004 27 1-11 MIN NFL 16 379 548 4717 39 11 46 238 88 406 2 4885 4 Tom Brady 2007 30 6-199 NWE NFL 16 398 578 4806 50 8 21 128 37 98 2 4776 5 Dan Fouts* 1981 30 3-64 SDG NFL 16 360 609 4802 33 17 19 134 22 56 0 4724 6 Matt Schaub 2009 28 3-90 HOU NFL 16 396 583 4770 29 15 25 149 48 57 0 4678 7 Jay Cutler 2008 25 1-11 DEN NFL 16 384 616 4526 25 18 11 69 57 200 2 4657 8 Kurt Warner 2001 30 STL NFL 16 375 546 4830 36 22 38 233 28 60 0 4657 9 Warren Moon* 1990 34 HOU NFL 15 362 584 4689 33 13 36 252 55 215 2 4652 10 Rich Gannon 2002 37 4-98 OAK NFL 16 418 618 4689 26 10 36 214 50 156 3 4631 11 Peyton Manning 2010 34 1-1 IND NFL 16 450 679 4700 33 17 16 91 18 18 0 4627 12 Dan Marino* 1986 25 1-27 MIA NFL 16 378 623 4746 44 23 17 119 12 -3 0 4624 13 Warren Moon* 1991 35 HOU NFL 16 404 655 4690 23 21 23 174 33 68 2 4584 14 Jeff Garcia 2000 30 SFO NFL 16 355 561 4278 31 10 24 155 72 414 4 4537 15 Philip Rivers 2010 29 1-4 SDG NFL 16 357 541 4710 30 13 38 227 29 52 0 4535 16 Dan Fouts* 1980 29 3-64 SDG NFL 16 348 589 4715 30 24 32 210 23 15 2 4520 17 Mark Brunell 1996 26 5-118 JAX NFL 16 353 557 4367 19 20 50 257 80 396 3 4506 18 Peyton Manning 2004 28 1-1 IND NFL 16 336 497 4557 49 10 13 101 25 38 0 4494 19 Drew Bledsoe 1994 22 1-1 NWE NFL 16 400 691 4555 25 27 22 139 44 40 0 4456 20 Trent Green 2004 34 8-222 KAN NFL 16 369 556 4591 27 17 32 227 25 85 0 4449
8 Comments | Posted in Announcements, P-F-R News, PI Finds, Play Index, Site Features
CFB: Auburn’s Place Among BCS Champions
Note: This post was originally published at CFB at Sports-Reference, S-R's new College Football site, so when you're done reading, go over and check it out!
Whenever a team wins a championship, the temptation is always to compare them to other champions from the past, and the 2010 Auburn Tigers are no exception. Using the Simple Rating System (SRS), let's take a look at where the newest title-holders stand among BCS champs...
On Monday, ESPN asked its users to rank the BCS Champions from #1-13, coming up with this list:
| Team | Total Pts | #1 Votes |
|---|---|---|
| 2005 Texas | 147,259 | 3,238 |
| 2004 USC | 141,467 | 2,710 |
| 2009 Alabama | 138,222 | 2,104 |
| 2001 Miami-FL | 130,473 | 2,474 |
| 2008 Florida | 119,697 | 1,071 |
| 2006 Florida | 102,270 | 478 |
| 2010 Auburn | 92,789 | 1,042 |
| 1999 Florida State | 87,367 | 446 |
| 2002 Ohio State | 82,755 | 629 |
| 2003 LSU | 79,905 | 404 |
| 2000 Oklahoma | 78,115 | 388 |
| 1998 Tennessee | 74,067 | 525 |
| 2007 LSU | 73,156 | 200 |
The SRS, though, comes up with a different ranking:
| Year | School | Conf | W | L | T | SRS | SOS |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2001 | Miami-FL | Big East | 12 | 0 | 0 | 26.169 | 5.741 |
| 2004 | Southern California | Pac 10 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 26.062 | 8.788 |
| 2008 | Florida | SEC | 13 | 1 | 0 | 25.370 | 6.701 |
| 2005 | Texas | Big 12 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 24.977 | 5.686 |
| 2009 | Alabama | SEC | 14 | 0 | 0 | 23.693 | 7.747 |
| 1999 | Florida State | ACC | 12 | 0 | 0 | 23.495 | 6.208 |
| 2000 | Oklahoma | Big 12 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 21.555 | 5.812 |
| 2003 | Louisiana State | SEC | 13 | 1 | 0 | 20.847 | 4.033 |
| 2010 | Auburn | SEC | 14 | 0 | 0 | 20.648 | 7.031 |
| 1998 | Tennessee | SEC | 13 | 0 | 0 | 19.955 | 4.955 |
| 2006 | Florida | SEC | 13 | 1 | 0 | 19.661 | 7.886 |
| 2007 | Louisiana State | SEC | 12 | 2 | 0 | 18.414 | 6.659 |
| 2002 | Ohio State | Big Ten | 14 | 0 | 0 | 18.134 | 4.739 |
7 Comments | Posted in BCS, Best/Worst Ever, College, Simple Rating System, Statgeekery
Draft stories: 1968
This is a sequel to Draft stories: 1967 and possibly a precursor to Draft stories 1969 through whenever.
11 Comments | Posted in History, NFL Draft
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What Does the Season Series Tell Us About Playoff Matchups?
All four of this weekend's playoff matchups feature rematches of regular-season games:
| Patriots vs. Jets | |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rk | Tm | Year | Date | Opp | W# | G# | Day | Result | |
| 1 | NWE | 2010 | 2010-12-06 | NYJ | 13 | 12 | Mon | W 45-3 | |
| 2 | NWE | 2010 | 2010-09-19 | @ | NYJ | 2 | 2 | Sun | L 14-28 |
| Steelers vs. Ravens | |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rk | Tm | Year | Date | Opp | W# | G# | Day | Result | |
| 1 | PIT | 2010 | 2010-12-05 | @ | BAL | 13 | 12 | Sun | W 13-10 |
| 2 | PIT | 2010 | 2010-10-03 | BAL | 4 | 4 | Sun | L 14-17 | |
| Falcons vs. Packers | |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rk | Tm | Year | Date | Opp | W# | G# | Day | Result | |
| 1 | ATL | 2010 | 2010-11-28 | GNB | 12 | 11 | Sun | W 20-17 | |
| Bears vs. Seahawks | |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rk | Tm | Year | Date | Opp | W# | G# | Day | Result | |
| 1 | CHI | 2010 | 2010-10-17 | SEA | 6 | 6 | Sun | L 20-23 | |
How much extra information (above & beyond the Simple Rating System) can we glean from these previous matchups of playoff foes?
10 Comments | Posted in Play Index, Simple Rating System, Statgeekery
Site Features: Total Offensive TDs Added to TD Finder Criteria
Player Touchdown Finder - Pro-Football-Reference.com
At the end of last week, Sean was able to add a new category to the Player Touchdown Finder: Combined Offensive TDs (rushing + receiving).
To use this new feature, just look under "Touchdown Type" and select "Offensive". It will allow you to execute queries like this one for the most offensive TDs in a playoff game since 1940:
2 Comments | Posted in Announcements, Play Index, Site Features
New York Times Posts: Weeks 14-18
Today, I look at how the Patriots are succeeding on offense thanks largely to undrafted and late round picks. In fact, if the Patriots win the Super Bowl, their skill position players on offense will have the worst draft pedigree of any Super Bowl winner, including offensive-challenged teams like the '02 Bucs and '00 Ravens. It's fascinating to look at how much Patriots production comes from the scrap heap:
Tom Brady, the presumptive M.V.P. winner this year, was the 199th pick in the 2000 draft. The Patriots’ leading rusher, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, wasn’t drafted. Neither was their leading receiver, Wes Welker. Danny Woodhead ranks just behind Green-Ellis in yards from scrimmage but he wasn’t one of the 23 running backs selected in the 2008 draft. The rookie tight end Rob Gronkowski, who caught 10 touchdown passes, qualifies as a superstar by Patriots standards: he was the 42nd pick in last April’s draft. Of New England’s eight most productive offensive skill position players — Brady, Green-Ellis, Woodhead, Welker, Deion Branch, Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez and Brandon Tate — only Gronkowski was a top-60 draft pick.
After the season is over, I'll do a full post on all Super Bowl teams based on their entire rosters, not just the offensive skill position players. And, of course, I'll use AV as the input. I suspect New England -- you know, if they manage to win the Super Bowl -- would still fall at the bottom of the list.
In other posts...
In mid-December I took a look at Jacksonville's surprising success.
The following week? How good is Jamaal Charles? Very, very good.
Before the final week of the regular season, I noted how Brady and Brees had impressive passing touchdown streaks that they maintained in week 17. Both quarterbacks threw a touchdown pass in every game in 2010.
After the season ended, I wondered how Kubiak and Del Rio kept their jobs and took a quick look at past playoff rematches.
2 Comments | Posted in Checkdowns
Checkdowns: Marshawn Lynch’s Okoye-esque Run, in Tecmo Form
In the original Tecmo Super Bowl, Christian "The Nigerian Nightmare" Okoye was nearly impossible to tackle thanks to his monstrous "Hitting Power" attribute. How extreme were Okoye's abilities in the game? The Colts had only one player on their entire roster (Jon Hand) with sufficient HP for a chance at stopping him. As a result, Okoye was the undisputed king of "popcorning", Tecmo slang for defenders bouncing off of a ballcarrier with practically no effect, en route to the end zone.
Well, Okoye was undisputed before Saturday... But as Jordan Slocum shows us, Marshawn Lynch is apparently gunning for Okoye:
The really crazy part is that the real-life version might be more videogame-like than the digital recreation!
4 Comments | Posted in Checkdowns, Tecmo Super Bowl, YouTube Finds
Add Links to Your Site’s Blog Posts to PFR Player Pages
PFR Player Name Linker / Add your Site to our Player Newsfeeds
Just a reminder that we now have newsfeeds on the PFR player pages, showing the latest player news from KFFL, injury reports and links to relevant PFR blog posts. If you have a blog or website with an RSS feed you can add your site to relevant player pages as well. Our Player Linker Tool will take your blog posts as you've written them and run them through a program and add links to PFR player pages where appropriate. So while you don't have the resource to create your own player pages for your site, you can treat us as your site's statistics partner, linking LT's name to our stats or any player all the way back to Y.A. Tittle and Otto Graham.
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Which Quarterbacks’ Offenses Exceed Expectations in the Playoffs?
Curious after Peyton Manning & the Colts scored 16 points at home against the Jets on Saturday, I wanted to calculate how many points we should have expected them to put on the board, knowing the opponent and game location.
According to the Simple Rating System (SRS), the Jets' defense was +4.2 this season -- meaning they allowed 4.2 fewer PPG than an average team after accounting for strength of schedule. The average NFL team scored 22.0 PPG during the regular-season, so at a neutral site we'd expect an average team to score 17.8 PPG against the New York defense. And since the Colts were at home, 0.95 PPG (half the overall home-field advantage in 2010) should be added in as well, giving a final expectation of 18.8 PPG for a league-average team against the Jets at home. Since the Colts actually scored 16, we can score this performance as -2.8 points relative to average.
Additionally, we wouldn't have expected the Colts' offense to be average based on the regular season. Their offensive SRS was +3.7, which means Indianapolis "should have" scored 22.0 + 0.95 + 3.7 - 4.2 = 22.5 pts against the Jets at home. This yields a score of -6.5 pts relative to regular-season expectations.
Here's Peyton Manning's entire playoff career according to this methodology:
20 Comments | Posted in Best/Worst Ever, History, Quarterbacks, Simple Rating System, Statgeekery
Draft stories: 1967
I've really been enjoying perusing old newspaper articles in the google news archives lately, so I figured I may as well put that time to good use by blogging some interesting tidbits. This post contains a random assortment of details and stories from the 1967 draft, along with some offshoots.
6 Comments | Posted in History, NFL Draft
Checkdowns, Rants: Rookie Wage Scale
Jason Lisk (f/k/a JKL of the PFR Blog) continues to kill it over at the Big Lead. You can read all of Jason's work here, and I highly advise you to do so. His latest piece? A large rant against the idea of a rookie wage scale in the NFL. Jason, Doug and I are in the tiny minority of NFL fans who don't think rookies are overpaid, even the most highly drafted ones. My favorite piece in his article today? A link to a sportswriter complaining in April that Ndamukong Suh was going to recieve similar guaranteed money to Albert Haynesworth. What an injustice!
We've discussed this on the PFR blog before. In February 2009, Jason wrote that some proof that first round picks, as a group, are not overpaid. In May 2008, I came up with a modern Draft Pick Value Chart, which confirmed my believe that the top rookies are not overpaid. Brian Burke wrote an insightful article on how NFL players are gladiators, not bricklayers, and I believe Burke is with the PFR Crew w/r/t rookie salaries.
And then, today, I got bored and did a tongue-in-cheek rant over at the Footballguys message boards. You can read it and follow the anticipated ridiculous comments here, but I'll re-post it as well below:
How in the world can it be justified to pay Jim Harbaugh 7 or 8 million dollars are you? Are you kidding me? Putting aside that, ya know, that's more money than most people will make in their entire lives, what has Harbaugh done to deserve it? He did a good job coaching in a decent conference in college? He never even won his conference! Yet all of the sudden he's somehow worthy of one of the richest contracts in NFL history?
Mike Tomlin has won a Super Bowl and has Pittsburgh as an annual contender, and he's making 4.8 million per year. Jeff Fisher, one of the most respected coaches in the league, is making just shy of 6 million per year. Tom Coughlin, after he won the freakin Super Bowl, is making just over 5 mill per year. How in the world can you justify paying Jim Harbaugh more than all of them? More than Bill Belichick, who's making 7.5 per year?
It's just absurd. Harbaugh's a college guy who hasn't proven a single thing in the NFL. Why not make him PROVE his worth first, then pay him? Wouldn't a 3-year, 6 million dollar deal still put him in the top .0001% of rich people and not cripple the franchise if he's a bust? If Harbaugh's actually a good NFL coach, surely his next contract would be in the 6-7 million dollar a year range. So if he's a good coach, he'll make a ton of money. If he's a bad coach, he'll still make good money but not crazy money. Why won't Roger Goodell step in and do something about this? As an average NFL fan, I have to say it turns me off to the whole sport to see an unproven whippersnapper like Harbaugh come in and make more money than my family will make for generations. For coaching freakin' football. Make him prove it, then pay him. Isn't that how every other industry in the world works?
Please, NFL and Goodell, do something.
10 Comments | Posted in Checkdowns, Rant, Rule Change Proposals
Checkdowns: Matt Ryan vs. Jake Long
I'm currently working on a two-part series discussing the Miami Dolphins' decision to draft Jake Long instead of Matt Ryan in the first round of the 2008 draft. It may be a few days, or a few weeks, but it's on the to-do list. That said, I thought I'd throw out a few questions to the commentators first:
1) Where do you rank Matt Ryan among NFL QBs right now, regardless of age? Where do you rank Ryan including age, i.e., if you were building a franchise?
2) Where do you rank Jake Long among NFL LTs right now, regardless of age? Where do you rank Long including age, i.e., if you were building a franchise?
3) In retrospect, who has been a more valuable player over the past 3 seasons, Ryan or Long? To the extent that your answer is different, who has been the better player over the past 3 seasons, Ryan or Long?
4) Suppose the NFL threw every single player into an open dynasty draft in the summer of 2011. There would be a lottery for the first pick, every player would have his contract revoked, and the league would essentially have a 32-team expansion draft. Some lucky team would get the first pick, while the 32nd team would pick 33rd, in a typical snake draft. There would be no salary cap, and the draft would last forever (i.e., we would not renew this process in the summer of 2012).
- a) Who would be the first pick in this draft? A few years ago, Peyton Manning (or Tom Brady) would have been the obvious choice, but now I'm not sure there is a clear number one.
- b) Who would go first, Ryan or Long? At what spot would each go?
- c) Assuming, for the sake of argument, that you believe Long to be the best left tackle in the league. Considering the respective ages of the players, how good would Ryan need to be to be selected ahead of Long? Top 5? Top 10? Top 15? Essentially, at what QB rank would you stop taking Ryan over long (assuming, of course, that if Ryan was the best QB in the league, you'd take him, and if he was the second best QB, you'd take him, etc. At what point does it stop)?
38 Comments | Posted in Insane ideas
PI Finds: Final 2010 Team Adjusted Rushing Yards per Attempt, SRS-Style
As a follow-up to the 2010 team passing ratings I posted Tuesday, I ran the same process on team rushing performances. The formula for adjusted rushing yards per attempt was:
ARY/A = (Rush Yds + 18 * Rush TD) / Rush Att
(The 18 comes from Chase's post on the value of TDs.)
Using the PFR Team Game Finder, I plugged every team single-game rushing performance of the 2010 season into the formula above, then adjusted for strength of schedule and game location using an SRS-style recursive loop. The result was a set of ratings that best predicted every game according to these equations:
Home ARY/A = Lg Avg ARY/A + .5*HFA + Home Rush Offense Rating + Away Rush Defense Rating
Away ARY/A = Lg Avg ARY/A - .5*HFA + Away Rush Offense Rating + Home Rush Defense Rating
Here were the ratings (again, negative is good for defenses):
4 Comments | Posted in PI Finds, Play Index, Simple Rating System, Site Features, Statgeekery
Checkdowns: All-NFL Edition of Gelf Magazine’s Varsity Letters Reading in NYC
Friend of the PFR Blog Carl Bialik is hosting a sports reading event in NYC this week for Gelf Magazine. This week, it's an all-NFL edition with guests Anthony Gargano (sharing an inside look at the brutal life of a player), N. Jeremi Duru (speaking on the history of the Rooney Rule), and Chad Millman (talking about the 1970s Steelers).
It's at Pacific Standard in Brooklyn, so check it out if you're in the area and like NFL-themed books.
2 Comments | Posted in Checkdowns
PI Finds: Final 2010 Team Adjusted Net Passing Yards per Attempt, SRS-Style
Taking into account opponent and game location, which 2010 teams had the best passing offenses and defenses according to Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt? Let's use the PFR team Game Finder and Doug's SRS methodology (or, if you prefer, Chase's Rearview Adjusted Yards Per Attempt methodology) to find out...
With the team game finder, I called up every team passing performance of the 2010 season. Using the CSV option, I dumped the results into Excel and was quickly able to create a table listing the home and road teams' passing stats for each game of the season:
2010 Game-by-Game Passing Stats
From there, I set up an SRS-style recursive loop where every game's home and road ANY/A are predicted by the following formulae:
Home ANY/A = Lg Avg ANY/A + .5*HFA + Home Pass Offense Rating + Away Pass Defense Rating
Away ANY/A = Lg Avg ANY/A - .5*HFA + Away Pass Offense Rating + Home Pass Defense Rating
Here were the results (negative is good for defenses):
4 Comments | Posted in PI Finds, Simple Rating System, Site Features, Statgeekery
Most interceptions by Quarterback-Defender pairing
Which player has intercepted which quarterback the most? Who has picked off Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Dan Marino or Joe Montana more than anyone else? Against which quarterbacks did Rod Woodson, Deion Sanders and Mel Blount pad their numbers? Those answers and more, below.
I used the same methodology I used in the most pick-sixes in NFL history post to determine which quarterback threw which interception to each defender. For the purposes of this study, I included all interceptions in any post-season game in league history and interceptions in any regular season games since 1960. For each interception thrown in any of those games, the defensive player was given X/Y interceptions against the quarterback, where X represents the number of interceptions thrown by that quarterback in that game and Y stands for the number of team interceptions thrown by the quarterback's team in that game. As a result, this post is more of an approximation than an exact science.
The leader in quarterback-defensive player pairing interceptions? Over a six-year period, Broncos cornerback Steve Foley terrorized Chargers quarterback Dan Fouts. Foley had two interceptions in a 17-0 shutout against the Chargers in November 1976; Fouts threw two picks while Clint Longley had three more, which means Fouts is blamed for 40% of the two interceptions Foley had that day, or 0.8 INTs. In December '77, with the Orange Crush at full bore, Foley picked off Fouts in a 17-9 Broncos victory. Their next matchup came in September 1978, and Foley intercepted Fouts again in a Denver win. On Monday Night Football in the 1979 season finale, Foley caught two passes from Fouts, only one fewer than Charlie Joiner. Fouts and Air Corywell was running at top speed in 1980, but Foley picked him off in both matchups, first in Denver and then in a road victory in San Diego. Their next meeting came in September '81, and Foley intercepted three Fouts passes. Maybe after that, Fouts learned not to throw the ball in Foley's direction. All told, including the "0.8 interceptions' in that '76 game, and Foley recorded 9.8 interceptions against the Hall of Fame quarterback.
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Bring back this idea: mid-week pre-playoff playoff games
File this under "I know that most stuff that happened before I was born was quaint, but not this quaint"....
As the final week of the 1970 season approached, the Vikings had clinched the NFC Central, but the West and East were up for grabs, as was the wildcard (or, as it was known at the time, "the playoff berth for the best second-place team"), with the Cardinals, Cowboys, Giants, Lions, Rams and 49ers all in the mix for three available slots. Back then, the tiebreakers were simpler: (1) head to head, (2) conference record, (3) coin flip.
As the various scenarios were examined, it began to dawn on people that a coin flip was not a remote possibility at all. A Lions/Cowboys coin flip seemed somewhat likely, and some newspaper articles referred to a potential three-way "telephonic coin flip" between the Lions, Cowboys, and Giants. My search for an explanation of the mechanics of the three-way flip ended without success.
But if Lions' GM Russ Thomas had his way, there would have been no mechanics necessary. From this UPI article:
Lions' General Manager Russ Thomas has proposed that the Lions be allowed to meet the Dallas Cowboys in a special playoff game next Wednesday instead of conducting a coin toss if the two teams tie for the playoff spot.
Lions' coach and former broken-glass-eating middle linebacker Joe Schmidt was, of course, ready to play anyone any time. Uh, but only because it was less "lousy" than a coin flip. Unfortunately, Pete Rozelle informed Thomas that such a proposal would require unanimous approval from all 26 owners, and speculated that that was extremely unlikely.
In the end, the Rams saved us the hassle by dominating the Giants 31-3. This allowed both Dallas and Detroit to control their own destinies, and both won their games easily.
Just a few weeks later, Rozelle admitted that the situation had him worried (exact words: "we damn near got burned and had to flip a coin.") and that the competition committee would probably be making some changes, but that pre-playoff playoff games were not a possibility.
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